I'm with Antony: what that admin did is ugly and wrong, but it's only a
symptom, and according to what I know about this language, the right
solution to the problem is to split the site, similarly to what is done
with Punjabi and Hindi/Urdu.
The spoken language may be the same, but the written languages are not, in
practice, mutually intelligible, because the Arabic script is not studied
by people in the Republic of Azerbaijan, and vice-versa, so the languages
are not unique enough to exist within the same site. As I wrote earlier,
I'm surprised that they held together for so long. The codes should be az
and azb.
There is an outstanding request for azb Wikipedia, and there is an active
localization community, and we should simply approve it.
בתאריך 4 במאי 2015 21:31, "Antony Green" <toniogreen(a)web.de> כתב:
If the Azeri Wikipedia community wants separate
Wikipedias for Latin and
Arab script, I'm in favor of doing that, partially because of the
impossibility of automatic conversion and partially because of the
linguistic differences between Northern and Southern Azeri, which if I've
understood the situation correctly are greater in the written language than
the spoken language. (In this respect the difference between the languages
is reminiscent of the difference between Hindi and Urdu: the spoken
languages are largely mutually intelligible, but the written languages are
not, for one thing because the scripts are different and for another
because learnèd words are borrowed from different sources.)
If that is the route we go, then I'm in favor of keeping the status quo at
az-wp, namely that it is written in Northern Azeri (the standard language
of the Republic of Azerbaijan) in the Latin script; it need not be moved to
azj.
I would prefer that the Arabic-script Southern Azeri Wikipedia use the
code azb and not az-Arab.
Best,
Antony
On 2015-05-04 15:52, Mjbmr wrote:
South Azerbaijani has a iso 639-3 code and
that's azb and not az-arab,
there are resources that make this language separate from North Azerbaijani
and that's not just script.
On 5/4/2015 5:53 PM, Michael Everson wrote:
On 4 May 2015, at 09:45, Oliver Stegen
<info(a)oliverstegen.net> wrote:
Sorry, Gerard, but I'm voting with MF, mjbmr and Michael to let Azeri
in Latin script keep az.wikipedia. I also vote
for opening a new wikipedia
for Azeri in Arabic script, preferably az-arab.wikipedia.
I recommend that we go to the community and tell them that we want to
create just that, az-arab.wikipedia, as the solution that we (the appointed
experts) feel is best for their concerns.
I do not believe you will find them opposing it. If however we give them
a basket of options (some of which this committee does not support) then we
are only prolonging problems.
Michael Everson *
http://www.evertype.com/
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