Hoi,
Eligible means that we accept the validity for the language to have a
project. When it fulfills all the requirements for a project it becomes
accepted.
Thanks,
GerardM
On Fri, 2 Jul 2021 at 11:59, Trond Trosterud <trond.trosterud(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
I agree with Kimberli on all points. Hijacker proposals and extinct
languages not behaving like Latin should be rejected.
Also, if a language is not capable of creating a wp, it follows that we
should block wikinews as well.
At the outset, one would think a
se.wiktionary.org had a future, since
e.g.
fr.wiktionary.org has an astonishing se-fr part. Also, if the idea
of a monolingual se dictionary would gain ground, se.wiktionary would be a
good framework for it. But for now: probably not.
Then to Gerard Meijssens comment " I take it that you mean that they are
not eligible. For me that means that we will not approve at a later date."
:
Here I disagree. For Northern Luri, I see no reason why a "no" for a wp
project today would imply a "no" at a later stage. The language has 4
million speakers, if the world were a place with an equal language policy
for all, we would expect it to have a wp version with 500000 articles. This
is of course not the case, but at least we should not reject the
possibility that some of these 4m speakers would knock on wp's door in the
future.
(or perhaps I misread you, and we agree after all). In any case,
housekeeping is a useful activity.
Trond
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1. Some housekeeping (Kimberli Mäkäräinen)
2. Re: Some housekeeping (Gerard Meijssen)
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From: Kimberli Mäkäräinen <kimberli.makarainen(a)tuni.fi>
Subject: [Langcom] Some housekeeping
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Hei! Sorry for the long mail.
Since the Northern Luri wp was closed, I think it would make sense to
reject the remaining Northern Luri proposal on meta:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikinews_Norther….
Also the "Sumerian" incubator (Wp/sux) is back and should be nuked again
and this request rejected<
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Shumer…
.
This Wiktionary has no proposal<
https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wt/yux>gt;, but it was created
by a notorious "Wiki hijacker" (to use a term from last week's Arctic Knot
conference) who did not know the languages he was supposedly saving so I
say nuke it. The wp version of this has already been nuked.
Other proposals that would be sensible to reject:
1.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Ter_Sa…
2.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Tundra…
This proposal for Norn was rejected since it's extinct and has very few
written sources<
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Norn&g…gt;,
which makes me wonder if this is written in actual Norn or some version of
Nynorn or some other language:
https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wp/nrn
I think that the Northern Saami wiktionary project should probably also be
nuked and buried as a lot of it was created by someone with no grasp of the
language (cf. "Wiki hijacker"), but I'll ask around in the community if
there is any reason they think it should be saved.
mvh.
-K