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by akinolatidoye＠petfarm-ng.com 19 Jun '08

19 Jun '08

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Re: [greenspun-illustrations] greenspun-illustrations Digest, Vol 2, Issue 1
by eugenio lasarte 18 Jun '08

18 Jun '08

Please. Would it be possible to receive the information in Spanish? If it was possible it would facilitate me a lot the understanding of the messages, since I don't understand English well. Thank you. --- El lun, 9/6/08, greenspun-illustrations-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org <greenspun-illustrations-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org> escribió: De: greenspun-illustrations-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org <greenspun-illustrations-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Asunto: greenspun-illustrations Digest, Vol 2, Issue 1 Para: greenspun-illustrations(a)lists.wikimedia.org Fecha: lunes, 9 junio, 2008 10:06 Send greenspun-illustrations mailing list submissions to greenspun-illustrations(a)lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/greenspun-illustrations or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to greenspun-illustrations-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org You can reach the person managing the list at greenspun-illustrations-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of greenspun-illustrations digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Hello World III (or IV) (Pierre delaby) 2. Apology for delay (Brianna Laugher) 3. Re: Apology for delay (Oswaldo G. C.) 4. Update: payment method, test demo (Brianna Laugher) 5. Re: Update: payment method, test demo (David Gerard) 6. Auto Responder (akinolatidoye(a)petfarm-ng.com) 7. thank you for good news! (Oswaldo G. C.) 8. Question JIRA Update: payment method, test demo (Jaime Huerta) 9. Re: Update: payment method, test demo (Erik Moeller) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:39:52 +0100 From: Pierre delaby <moi.pierred(a)wanadoo.fr> Subject: [greenspun-illustrations] Hello World III (or IV) To: Discussion of the Philip Greenspun illustration project <greenspun-illustrations(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Message-ID: <4773F178.1040802(a)wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hello everybody.. I'm Delaby Pierre, aka Walk?. Firts sorry for my english, I'm french. I understand English thanks to Google translate... Second, happy christmas ! ( and other...) Now my presentation.. I'm a young french, who intended to study art, and wikigraphiste for nearly a year. With the help of other wikigraphists , I learned to master Inkscape, and I think I have reached a correct level. My opinion in (for ?) the project : I agree whit Korrigan for all the point, and I think the internationalisation of picture is critical.. Just a question : what about the time of the realisation of the request ? 15 days, it's short, no ? And If a take a request, but I have not finished in time, other participant can also make the request. But if I finished before any of them ( Say 3 days after), can i propose my work, or am I disqualified ? So, it's all for time... Yours, Walk? Here the text in french, say better. Bonjour tout le monde ! Je suis Delaby Pierre, aka Walk? Escusez moi d'abord de mal parler anglais, je suis fran?ais.. Je comprend tout de m?me l'anglais, mais en partie grace ? Google translate Ensuite, joyeux noel ? tous, et compagnie... Maintenant la pr?sentation. Je suis un jeune fran?ais, qui se destine ? des ?tudes d'art, et wikigraphiste depuis bient?t un an. J'ai appris ? maitriser Inkscape gr?ce ? l'aide des autres wikigraphistes, et je pense avoir un niveau correct. Mon opinion sur le projet : je suis d'accord avec Korrigan pour tout, et j'insiste sur l'importance de l'internationalisation des images. Juste un point que j'aimerais ?claircir : le temps pour la r?alisation d'une commande. 15 jours c'est pas un peu court ? Et si je prend en charge une commande et que je n'ai pas fini ? temps, d'autre peuvent aussi la prendre. Mais si trois jours apr?s j'ai fini, je peut soumettre mon travail, ou je suis discalifi? ? C'est tout pour le moment... Amicalement, Walk? ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 13:18:06 +1100 From: "Brianna Laugher" <brianna.laugher(a)gmail.com> Subject: [greenspun-illustrations] Apology for delay To: greenspun-illustrations(a)lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: <d20d84ea0801271818j750825e6ye9684933526a9073(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello everyone, Just a short note to apologise for the delay in getting Round 1 started. The fault is mine as I have not had enough time to commit to PGIP. (January has been a good lesson to me in over-committing to too many projects...) So I just wanted to write and reassure people that things will still happen, and I will be providing a lot more input and activity into the mailing list and the meta pages (<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/PGIP>) cheers, Brianna user:pfctdayelise PGIP coordinator -- They've just been waiting in a mountain for the right moment: http://modernthings.org/ ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:56:14 +0000 (GMT) From: "Oswaldo G. C." <oswaldo2025(a)yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [greenspun-illustrations] Apology for delay To: Discussion of the Philip Greenspun illustration project <greenspun-illustrations(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Message-ID: <455393.73590.qm(a)web60323.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Present! I'm here waiting good news. Oswaldo --------------------------------- Support the World Aids Awareness campaign this month with Yahoo! for Good

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Update: payment method, test demo
by Brianna Laugher 11 Jun '08

11 Jun '08

Hi all, I am happy to have two things to announce. 1/ The payment method has been finalised. In short, it will be via Paypal. This means if you participate, you should have a Paypal account. <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Philip_Greenspun_illustration_project/Paymen…> 2/ The image requests will be organised through JIRA, the issue-tracking system on the toolserver. There is project called 'PGIP' where they will appear. <https://jira.toolserver.org/browse/PGIP> You will need to create an account on JIRA, to be able to pick up requests to work on. Using JIRA lets us easily arrange new (unfulfilled) requests, filled-but-not-completed requests, requests awaiting review, reviewed requests awaiting payment, and finally completed requests. There are some "issues" there now ("Illustrations") which all have names like "test 5", "test 6". I encourage folks to a) create an account on JIRA b) play around with the test issues - e.g. by assigning one to yourself, add comments etc. JIRA should be fairly multilingual, please let me know if you have trouble setting your language preference. What's next: finalising the request list, and then we hop to it! cheers, Brianna

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10 Jun '08

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09 Jun '08

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Apology for delay
by Brianna Laugher 29 Jan '08

29 Jan '08

Hello everyone, Just a short note to apologise for the delay in getting Round 1 started. The fault is mine as I have not had enough time to commit to PGIP. (January has been a good lesson to me in over-committing to too many projects...) So I just wanted to write and reassure people that things will still happen, and I will be providing a lot more input and activity into the mailing list and the meta pages (<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/PGIP>) cheers, Brianna user:pfctdayelise PGIP coordinator -- They've just been waiting in a mountain for the right moment: http://modernthings.org/

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Re: [greenspun-illustrations] Regarding the 20, 000 $ Greenspun project : note on the Graphic Lab
by Rémi Kaupp 28 Dec '07

28 Dec '07

Hello Brianna, Here is some feedback regarding the Greenspun project, as seen by graphists from fr.wikipedia (which I will call fr.graphists in this email). I C/C this email to the Greenspun mailing-list, I guess other people could be interested. Regarding the way illustrations would be done : * The images should have a very high quality: they should be reviewed both by good graphists and by people who know the topic. Images should be assessed both regarding their accuracy, their use of colours, their possible internationalisation, etc. : fr.graphists said that payment should be done after quality has been acknowledged. High quality means using good sources: these sources should be sought beforehand and approved by people involved (zoologists for animal diagrams, for instance). This is a key point for making good diagrams. The source(s) should be quoted/acknowledged on the image description page. * For each illustration, there should be a version with numbered labels and a blank version, on top of versions with English or other localised labels. The numbered version allows easy reuse on small Wikipedias (without graphists), the blank version allows interactive diagrams using ImageMap for instance. * Each illustration should be translated in as many languages as possible. This part can be done by volunteers, but the image has to be advertised to them. * Free software should be used if possible. By free software, they mean of course Inkscape. There are several reasons: first, it is free :-) so in the same spirit as Wikimedia projects; this software can be used by anyone without the need to buy a license; it produces better SVG code than OOo or Illustrator if you don't have the good plugin. Fr.graphists said that this may be a problem with professional graphists, who tend to use more professional tools. * Maybe it goes without saying, but all illustrations should be in SVG format. PNG is much harder to translate / adapt. ANother good reason to use Inkscape. * The selection process may be private (ie not open to anyone) as competition for money should be avoided. When images are produced, they should be made available to everybody for review, criticism, and inspiration ! * Some fr.graphists were anxious about a possible "en.wikipedia-centrism", meaning that some illustrations would be useful to the en.wikipedia project but maybe not to others. This can work the other way around too (Wikipedia vs. Wikibooks, etc.). This also means that they should be easy to translate (maybe problematic when jargon or technical language is used). Maybe illustrations for "core topics" should have higher priority as well... Finally, they also said that it would have much more impact to teach graphists to use their tools (Inkscape / GIMP / etc.), to create tutorials, etc. than to pay for a few hundred pictures. This would be much more in the spirit of Wikimedia projects. People could be paid to teach new graphists, to write well-illustrated tutorials, etc., which should also potentially generate less frustration between paid and volunteer graphists. Another way of avoiding this "frustration" is to make sure the diagrams produced in the Greenspun project have a really high quality. The graphists had some general suggestions for the project (which may or may not fit into the objectives) : * create commonly accepted standards or recommandations for maps and diagrams. The French Graphic Lab already uses cartographic standards extensively (see [1]) * help User:Sting to finish his cartographic tutorials, and translate them (see [2]) * Make work together a macro-photographer and a graphist, to produce good quality diagrams of insects and this sort of stuff (see [3] for instance) * Get programmers to create a cartographic software for Wikipedia, including standards, etc. * Help the development of Inkscape, and the SVG rendering software in MediaWiki (patterns, masks, some issues with arrows, support for animated SVG...) That's it, I think. You may read the full comments on [4]. Cheers, Rémi Kaupp User:Korrigan [1] http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aide:Cartographie#Conventions [2] http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Sting/Brouillon/Carte_topographiqu… other pages from http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Sting/Brouillon [3] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Sch%C3%A9ma_abeille-tag.svg [4] http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Wikip%C3%A9dia:Atelier_graphique/Im…

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