The important difference being, that Rue is explicitly described as black in the books :) (rather than it being implicit in the name, as with Cho Chang). Tom On 30 March 2013 17:24, Shlomi Fish <shlomif(a)shlomifish.org> wrote:

In science fiction fandom, the legendary example was Lee Hoffman, active fanzine fan and writer of Westerns as well as S.F. Here's part of Wilson Tucker's classic account of learning the truth, in Room 770 of the hotel where the 1951 World Science Fiction Convention was being held. He has just stepped out of the shower: I wrapped a towel around my middle, began searching my luggage for a deck of cards, and yelled a bored invitation to enter. Three strangers trooped in wearing abashed grins, a girl and two men. The girl looked as if she were desperately searching for better company than the characters trailing her. I silently sympathized, and stared at the trio, the meanwhile dripping soap and water on the rug. The two gentlemen stared at the towel and giggled, while the girl looked at the puddle on the rug. "Hello," one character said. "Hello," another character said. "Hello," the girl echoed. Sadly, I shook my head. The same old wornout greetings. "We're faaaaaaans" the tallest character announced proudly. "The hell you say!" I shot back, astounded. "Yep." He was wearing a white T-shirt on which had been printed, I AM SHELBY VICK. Turning to face me, he asked: "Know who I am?" I gazed at the T-shirt. "Bela Lugosi?" He waggled his head, vaguely disappointed. "Richard Shaver," I guessed again, "Claude Degler, Ray Palmer?" "I an Shelby Vick!" he exclaimed then in clear, ringing tones. "The hell you say!" I shot back, astounded. I-am-Shelby-Vick then flicked a finger at his two conspirators. "You know Lee Hoffman, of course?" Of course. I threw a bored glance at the remaining character and yawned, "Hello, Lee." "No, no!" contradicted I-am-Shelby-Vick. "Not him ... HER!" Mustering what dignity I retained, I picked up my towel from the floor and stalked into the bathroom, flanging shut the door. On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 5:29 AM, Joseph Reagle <joseph.2011(a)reagle.org>wrote;wrote: -- Michael J. "Orange Mike" Lowrey "When I get a little money I buy books; and if any is left, I buy food and clothes." -- Desiderius Erasmus

This actually happened to me, in a way, with one now long-departed Wikipedia editor. Despite a female-suffixed username*, I assumed this editor was a male because she was a flagrant asshole in some AfDs in a way that (in my experience) only men ever are. I was actually stunned to find out she was indeed a she. Daniel Case *As most of us know, username-based gender assumptions cut both ways. Users Hersfold and Nancy (see the explanation on his userpage) are both men, yet regularly deal with new editors assuming based on their names that they’re female. And I know they’re not the only ones.

That is interesting! Of course according to the latest stats, chances are 87% that any Wikipedian on the English Wikipedia is male (and we just found out this month that in the Dutch Wikipedia, 94% are male). It would be definitely interesting to fund some research on this specific issue (how people react in AfD discussions to girlish-named-Wikipedians based on female gender assumptions). This week similar research was published on the use of the Wikipedia "Ignore all rules" policy in AfD's: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-03-25/Recent… 2013/3/31, Risker <risker.wp(a)gmail.com>om>:

I'd say we need to use the usual resources to figure out whether she or her blog gets the most coverage, and craft an article for whichever subject it is. (I know I'm a meanie, Sarah; but I'm an equal-opportunity wet blanket, quashing ideas about things I love as well as those I don't care about and those I despise, if I think they don't qualify.) On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Sarah Stierch <sarah.stierch(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote: -- Michael J. "Orange Mike" Lowrey "When I get a little money I buy books; and if any is left, I buy food and clothes." -- Desiderius Erasmus

Awesome! Nice article. I think she is OK on the notability front. Anyone who manages to accumulate more than 4 million *science* followers on facebook without posting regularly on sexual subjects is definitely noteworthy enough for Wikipedia. Add to that this strange development on the swear-word gender miscommunication and you pass on the basis of "most bizarre gendergap content to be published in 2013". 2013/3/30, Ilona Buchem <buchem(a)beuth-hochschule.de>de>:

There are plenty! She was notable before this incident happened. She's been covered/interviewed in /multiple secondary reliable sources/. -Sarah /who always likes a challenge. On 3/30/13 12:58 PM, Emily Monroe wrote: -- *Sarah Stierch* */Museumist and open culture advocate/*