Re: [Gendergap] What's happening at ArbCom re WP:GGTF - Gendergap

30 Nov 2014

Dodbot has been down for a long time. I think the only assessment bots are run be either
anomie, magioladitis and possibly going batty.

I would suggest manually verifying the subcats before assessing. Often time the subcats
arent intuitive.

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------ Original message------
From: Marie Earley
Date: Sun, Nov 30, 2014 6:32 PM
To: Gender Gap;
Subject:Re: [Gendergap] What's happening at ArbCom re WP:GGTF

Thanks Sarah,

Yes, they does seem to be a lot more of it lately. I also thought that discussion board
stuff would die down. They got their pound of flesh and now they seem to want blood as
well.

I pretty much stayed off the boards but I was drawn in by a
"Hey-let's-move-on" style opening post which just turned out to be a red
herring.

Anyway, before all this kicked off I was looking at bots that do autoassessments, in
particular https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DodoBot/Requests

It works like this:
* Create a page called - Wikipedia:WikiProject Gender Studies/Categories
* On the page that just been created, list the sub-categories that are of interest to the
project, e.g. the way that the Toronto project has done here,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Toronto/Categories
* If the sub-categories have their own sub-categories, and you want to capture all of them
then add (Depth:Inf) or to the 'depth' of sub-category that you want to go e.g.
(Depth:2)
* You can also assign how important you want those articles in that sub-category to be
labelled, for example Category: Gender and entertainment (Depth:Inf) (Importance:Mid)
- will result in all the articles in the category 'Gender and entertainment', and
all the articles in the sub-categories (and the sub-categories of the sub-categories of
'Gender and entertainment' to infinity) being labelled 'mid importance'.

Depth explained a bit better:
* Category:Gender and entertainment
* Category:Feminism and the arts - (depth level = 1)
* Category:Feminist films - (depth level = 2)
* Category:Studio Ghibli - (depth level = 3)
* Category:Studio Ghibli animated films - (depth level = 4)

* Category: Gender and entertainment (Depth:2) will include all the articles in the
categories - Gender and entertainment; Feminism and the arts; Feminist films

* Category: Gender and entertainment (Depth:3) will include all the articles in the
categories - Gender and entertainment; Feminism and the arts; Feminist films AND Studio
Ghibli

* Category: Gender and entertainment (Depth:Inf) will include all the articles in the
category - Gender and entertainment AND all the lower levels, including any new
sub-categories created for the Category:Studio Ghibli animated films or lower, such as
Category:Studio Ghibli animated films X (depth level = 5), Category:Studio Ghibli animated
films X1 (depth level = 6) ... etc. to an infinite depth.

But before you can do any of that you have to get consensus from the project participants
on the categories that you want labelling Top, Mid, Low importance. That's the tricky
bit.

I don't mind setting up the page and creating a provisional list probably based on
existing assessments, but then it will have to go to discussion.

Marie

Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 14:32:17 -0700
From: slimvirgin(a)gmail.com
To: gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Gendergap] What's happening at ArbCom re WP:GGTF

On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Marie Earley &lt;eiryel(a)hotmail.com&gt; wrote:
In answer to your other questions:
* Please explain why this is relevant to the gender gap, since you are sending it out to
everyone on the gender gap mailing list?
- Please explain why you think it isn't relevant, since the opening link in my last
post (and given again above) is to GGTF's talk page?
* [Explain] why a minor content dispute on enwiki is relevant to the Wikimedia gender gap
community as a whole?
- Because it it provides a telling snap-shop

Marie

Hi Marie, your post was interesting and on-topic. Please don't be discouraged from
letting us know about these issues. They have been happening a lot and seem to be
increasing.

Sarah

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