On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Andreas Kolbe <jayen466(a)gmail.com> wrote: Thanks for bringing this to everyone's attention! I think this is useful insight into the motivations of people trying to get specific sexualized content onto Wikipedia in ways that aren't compatible with the overall goal of Wikipedia. Probably the discussion would have better results if participants acknowledged that perhaps not all attempts to get sexualized content on Wikipedia are motivated purely by the desire to educate, and not all attempts to remove it are motivated purely by prudery. Framing it as education vs. prudery makes only one outcome possible, we need to re-frame it in another way if we want change. An interesting side note: I've been working the Wikipedia article for Mary Ware Dennett, who wrote a sex education pamphlet that was the subject of the court case that overturned the Comstock "anti-obscenity" laws in the United States. She ended up drawing her own diagrams of the sexual organs because she couldn't find any useful, medically accurate diagrams at the time! I strongly support Wikipedia as a medium to distribute information about human sexuality to empower people around the world, I'm far less enthusiastic about using it as a way to flash or gross out a larger audience. :) -VAL -- Increasing the participation of women in open technology and culture http://adainitiative.org