That was a "death of" article. I suspect there are articles that cover ISIS
killing people, if they had only killed one person it might well be titled "death
of". Since they seem keen to torture enslave or murder anyone who doesn't share
their brand of Sunni Islam it would stretch our notability criteria to create separate
articles for each of their victims. Similarly our 4.6 million articles only include
individual articles for a small minority of the 13 million killed in the Nazi's murder
programs.
Regards
Jonathan Cardy
On 23 Dec 2014, at 05:45, Neotarf
<neotarf(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Is Samira Salih al-Nuaimi notable?
Just looking for an example of an article about someone notable for only one event, here
is an article on the Death of Ian Tomlinson, a newspaper vendor who died during a London
protest. Tomlinson's piece has been a featured article, and as far as I know, no one
has ever challenged his notability.
Tomlinson article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Ian_Tomlinson
BLP policy--people notable for only one event:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_%28people%29#People_notab…
Al-Nuaimi seems to be much more notable than that. The UN and the US government have
both issued official statements about al-Nuaimi's death. The UN statement calls her a
"well-known human rights lawyer and activist".
http://reliefweb.int/report/iraq/un-envoy-condemns-public-execution-human-r…
This NZ piece has more detail about the statements issued by UN officials, apparently
al-Nuaimi was running for office on the provincial council as well. There is more detail
about two other female politicians killed or kidnapped, as well as five female political
activists killed in Mosul, but no other names.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/middle-east/61509820/un-activist-publicly-exec…
And if you can get into some of the Arabic language sources, there is more nuance: you
can see there were statements issued by two different UN officials, a statement issued by
Prince Zeid Ra'ad Al Husssein, the High Commissioner for Human rights, in a statement
issued by the UNHCR in Geneva and New York, and a statement by the Special Representative
of the Secretary-General of the United Nations in Iraq, Nikolay Mladenov.
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&u=http://www.elap…
A google search for her name in Arabic turns up 138,000 results. Although Google results
numbers are highly inaccurate, you can see at a glance from the URL's, this is not
just a local personality, it has been widely reported across the Arabic-speaking world.
https://www.google.com/search?q=%D8%B3%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%B1%D8%A9+%D8%B5%D8%A7…
If you wanted to skirt the notability issue, you could always just do a quick translation
of the Italian piece, basically there is just a template so you can credit the original
sources. More information can be added to a translated piece later.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Translation#How_to_translate
But I don't see how she is not notable. I daresay if someone created an article and
it contained both a source, an internal link to another Wikipedia article, and a category,
no one would challenge it. This is exactly the kind of information from the "global
south" that the Foundation's official reports keep saying is lacking from
Wikipedia, that they want to do something about.
Regards,
Neotarf
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Risker
<risker.wp(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 22 December 2014 at 15:34, Leigh Honeywell
<leigh(a)hypatia.ca> wrote:
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Risker
<risker.wp(a)gmail.com> wrote:
It does not fall afoul of the meatpuppetry policy if the creator writes the article
independently and using their own wording to create an appropriate article based on their
own understanding and referencing to reliable sources. For example, this one could fall
into several topics: Women and ISIS, biography of individual (although you'd have to
show she was notable for a reason other than her execution), ISIS executions, etc. etc.
Perhaps a stupid question but why is the coverage of her execution not enough for
notability?
ISIS is executing people by the tens of thousands (many for reasons that seem
astonishingly petty to outsiders), so being executed by ISIS does not confer notability in
and of itself.
What would confer notability would be reporting about her *before* her death, such as
multiple significant references where she is a primary focus of a report about (for
example) women human rights activists in her native country, or conferring of significant
recognition such as a government or significant NGO human rights award. In other words,
she needs to be notable *before* her death in order to cross the notability threshold.
The BLP1E threshold still applies.
(For those of you unfamiliar with the acronym, that means that a person notable for only
one event will not normally have a biographical article, although some of the information
(including the name of the individual) may well be notable enough for inclusion in another
article. Example: Names of victims of mass murderers - their names might be included in
the article about the murderer. This is also known as the "Badlydrawnjeff"
Arbcom decision.)
I've deliberately not been following the articles related to this topic in general,
but I am quite certain, based on the significant reporting of this specific event and its
contextualization in the media reports (particularly issues related to risks to educated
women in Iraq), there's definitely a place for this information on Wikipedia, either
in an article about the topic (identifying al-Nuaimi by name and event) or (if there is
sufficient information) in an article about herself.
Risker/Anne
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