I have read this list with great care. I am a senior faculty member in what used to be a library school but is now an iSchool. Most of our new hires have been men who try very hard to pretend that the librarian legacy is disappearing. In my classes (one is the History of Libraries) my students are 60% female. All of my assignments are to edit and contribute to Wikipedia from the scholarship students uncover in archives and local histories. 35 years ago I chaired the American Library Association Committee on the Status of Women in Librarianship--baffled that a field of women was dominated by men. It was a long effort to isolate factors that resulted in status differential but the factors were 1)publishing; 2) professional involvement; 3) willingness to relocate.
So, the issue of women's opportunity for full participation continues. I will do my best to encourage women to be involved in Wikipedia and thus help to broaden the perspective. Reading this list has been very inspirational. In the past ten years my efforts to edit in Wikipedia were very discouraging in spite of a doctoral degree in my subject field. I know there were many nameless boys delighting in destruction. I have completely given up trying to post images as the image watchers delight in making this near to impossible even if one is trying to upload one's own pictures. The cover of a journal I edit, that is in the commons that I had full editorial board approval to upload has never been allowed. But a boy in pajamas beat me every time . This group has shown that that is so and must be fought--before I encountered this group I was more and more discouraged. Don't back down.
Kathleen de la Peña McCook, Librarian
============ On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 3:47 AM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stierch@gmail.comwrote:
Don't we know by now not to read the comment sections? ;)
I gave that up a while ago. If I read the comment sections I would have quit my fellowship months ago and given up the fight.
-Sarah
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On Jan 25, 2013, at 12:32 AM, Ole Palnatoke Andersen ole@palnatoke.org wrote:
I thought of sharing the article, but then I read the comment. :-(
regards, Ole
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stierch@gmail.comwrote:
Myself and Joseph Reagle were interviewed by the Daily Dot about the gender gap.
You can read it here: http://www.dailydot.com/society/wikipedia-gender-gap-sarah-stierch/
Probably one of my favorite articles thus far about the gender gap. Beware, dorky photograph of yours truly at the top, so if you haven't had your coffee this morning it'll surely startle you. ;)
-Sarah
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Hi Kathleen, I'm sorry you've had so much difficult uploading this journal cover. There's a couple options we can take to make this easier. First, to upload the cover of the journal on commons, you'll need to make sure that the designer of the cover not only permits you to upload it, but also permits it to be released under a valid creative commons license. That would mean that anybody could use that image, even for commercial purposes. If that permission is granted, you can upload the image and have a completed version of this formhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Declaration_of_consent_for_all_enquiriessent to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org You can leave a note at my Wikipedia talk page here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ryan_Vesey and I can help you tie up any loose ends. A more detailed description can be seen on this pagehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Donating_copyrighted_materials. Another option, if the journal has a website, would be to have a disclaimer on the website stating that the cover is released under a valid license. If the copyright owner is unwilling to release the cover under such an open license, or wants to release the image to "Wikipedia only" it can be uploaded locally to English Wikipedia with this linkhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:File_Upload_Wizardunder a fair use claim. Here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Acr_cover.jpg is an example of a journal using a fair use claim. I hope this helps, Ryan Vesey
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Kathleen McCook klmccook@gmail.com wrote:
I have read this list with great care. I am a senior faculty member in what used to be a library school but is now an iSchool. Most of our new hires have been men who try very hard to pretend that the librarian legacy is disappearing. In my classes (one is the History of Libraries) my students are 60% female. All of my assignments are to edit and contribute to Wikipedia from the scholarship students uncover in archives and local histories. 35 years ago I chaired the American Library Association Committee on the Status of Women in Librarianship--baffled that a field of women was dominated by men. It was a long effort to isolate factors that resulted in status differential but the factors were 1)publishing; 2) professional involvement; 3) willingness to relocate.
So, the issue of women's opportunity for full participation continues. I will do my best to encourage women to be involved in Wikipedia and thus help to broaden the perspective. Reading this list has been very inspirational. In the past ten years my efforts to edit in Wikipedia were very discouraging in spite of a doctoral degree in my subject field. I know there were many nameless boys delighting in destruction. I have completely given up trying to post images as the image watchers delight in making this near to impossible even if one is trying to upload one's own pictures. The cover of a journal I edit, that is in the commons that I had full editorial board approval to upload has never been allowed. But a boy in pajamas beat me every time . This group has shown that that is so and must be fought--before I encountered this group I was more and more discouraged. Don't back down.
Kathleen de la Peña McCook, Librarian
============ On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 3:47 AM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stierch@gmail.comwrote:
Don't we know by now not to read the comment sections? ;)
I gave that up a while ago. If I read the comment sections I would have quit my fellowship months ago and given up the fight.
-Sarah
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 25, 2013, at 12:32 AM, Ole Palnatoke Andersen ole@palnatoke.org wrote:
I thought of sharing the article, but then I read the comment. :-(
regards, Ole
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stierch@gmail.comwrote:
Myself and Joseph Reagle were interviewed by the Daily Dot about the gender gap.
You can read it here: http://www.dailydot.com/society/wikipedia-gender-gap-sarah-stierch/
Probably one of my favorite articles thus far about the gender gap. Beware, dorky photograph of yours truly at the top, so if you haven't had your coffee this morning it'll surely startle you. ;)
-Sarah
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Thank you. I had someone help me this morning. The covers were made available under creative commons when we first used them--we the editorial board who put together each issue. This somehow reminds me, when people give people overly complicated. directions when they don't really want them to find where they want to go. A common enough practice. Then you figure it wasn't worth the trip.Glad to know there are helpful people.Appreciate it.
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Ryan Vesey rdjvesey@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Kathleen, I'm sorry you've had so much difficult uploading this journal cover. There's a couple options we can take to make this easier. First, to upload the cover of the journal on commons, you'll need to make sure that the designer of the cover not only permits you to upload it, but also permits it to be released under a valid creative commons license. That would mean that anybody could use that image, even for commercial purposes. If that permission is granted, you can upload the image and have a completed version of this formhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Declaration_of_consent_for_all_enquiriessent to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org You can leave a note at my Wikipedia talk page here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ryan_Vesey and I can help you tie up any loose ends. A more detailed description can be seen on this pagehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Donating_copyrighted_materials. Another option, if the journal has a website, would be to have a disclaimer on the website stating that the cover is released under a valid license. If the copyright owner is unwilling to release the cover under such an open license, or wants to release the image to "Wikipedia only" it can be uploaded locally to English Wikipedia with this linkhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:File_Upload_Wizardunder a fair use claim. Here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Acr_cover.jpg is an example of a journal using a fair use claim. I hope this helps, Ryan Vesey
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Kathleen McCook klmccook@gmail.comwrote:
I have read this list with great care. I am a senior faculty member in what used to be a library school but is now an iSchool. Most of our new hires have been men who try very hard to pretend that the librarian legacy is disappearing. In my classes (one is the History of Libraries) my students are 60% female. All of my assignments are to edit and contribute to Wikipedia from the scholarship students uncover in archives and local histories. 35 years ago I chaired the American Library Association Committee on the Status of Women in Librarianship--baffled that a field of women was dominated by men. It was a long effort to isolate factors that resulted in status differential but the factors were 1)publishing; 2) professional involvement; 3) willingness to relocate.
So, the issue of women's opportunity for full participation continues. I will do my best to encourage women to be involved in Wikipedia and thus help to broaden the perspective. Reading this list has been very inspirational. In the past ten years my efforts to edit in Wikipedia were very discouraging in spite of a doctoral degree in my subject field. I know there were many nameless boys delighting in destruction. I have completely given up trying to post images as the image watchers delight in making this near to impossible even if one is trying to upload one's own pictures. The cover of a journal I edit, that is in the commons that I had full editorial board approval to upload has never been allowed. But a boy in pajamas beat me every time . This group has shown that that is so and must be fought--before I encountered this group I was more and more discouraged. Don't back down.
Kathleen de la Peña McCook, Librarian
============ On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 3:47 AM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stierch@gmail.comwrote:
Don't we know by now not to read the comment sections? ;)
I gave that up a while ago. If I read the comment sections I would have quit my fellowship months ago and given up the fight.
-Sarah
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 25, 2013, at 12:32 AM, Ole Palnatoke Andersen ole@palnatoke.org wrote:
I thought of sharing the article, but then I read the comment. :-(
regards, Ole
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stierch@gmail.comwrote:
Myself and Joseph Reagle were interviewed by the Daily Dot about the gender gap.
You can read it here: http://www.dailydot.com/society/wikipedia-gender-gap-sarah-stierch/
Probably one of my favorite articles thus far about the gender gap. Beware, dorky photograph of yours truly at the top, so if you haven't had your coffee this morning it'll surely startle you. ;)
-Sarah
-- *Sarah Stierch* *Museumist and open culture advocate*
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