i agree not coding
especially with visual editor
i look at it as another tool in the box for social media outreach
for archivists and librarians and digital humanists
pushing content to where researchers can find it.
also broad principles of crowd sourcing, and open source software of crowd
sourcing
organizations use media wiki for internal wikis, and use crowd sourcing
for transcription on their own site.
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Christine Meyer <
christinewmeyer(a)gmail.com> wrote:
You make some good points, Ellie. However,
it's been my experience that
even a basic knowledge of HTML helped me learn Wiki syntax. I am by no
means a coder, although I am married to one. Perhaps a better way to frame
it is that learning Wiki syntax can help you learn to code easier?
Christine
User:Figureskatingfan
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Ellie K <myindigolife(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I read Marie Earley's message about the
Inspire campaign, and
specifically about the Pinterest-related proposal. I was interested in the
Pinterest proposal too! I use Pinterest for fun. As far as I know, I was
the only one to endorse it (I am FeralOink on WP, Ellie Kesselman IRL).
Marie said this in her message on the GenderGap mailing list:
"
If the pitch to women were "learn code by editing Wikipedia" then I
think there would be a greater take up...
"
Yes, I agree that there would be a lot of interest from women if that
were true. However, editing Wikipedia and learning to code have nothing to
do with each other. Learning Wiki syntax for editing is something that can
take bona fide programmers a (brief) while to learn, as it is markup with
many additional Mediawiki-specific features. More to the point, Wiki syntax
isn't a programming language, nor does it closely resemble HTML or CSS,
which are not programming languages either. The only people who code on
Wikipedia are the Wikidata folks and those who build utilities (many in
Python, I think) for whatever the toolserver is called now. Most Wikipedia
editors are not going to have any interaction with these few folks, nor any
means to learn the skills they have.
I'm sorry for sounding negative, but I don't want to mislead women into
thinking they will learn a job skill like programming (coding) by editing
Wikipedia. There are many other things one may learn by editing Wikipedia,
but they aren't so easy to articulate and vary by individual.
--Ellie Kesselman (FeralOink)
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