On Thursday 17 Mar 2011 11:58:48 whothis wrote:
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Philippe Beaudette
<philippe(a)wikimedia.org>wrote;wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 9:01 PM, Adrianne Wadewitz
<wadewitz(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
Many women react in ways that are just as sexist as
men. Some of
the most damaging sexism I have seen on Wikipedia came from female
editors. We should not exclude male voices based on the assumption
that they could be sexist but allow any female voice.
I've struggled with this list, today. I feel emotionally blackmailed -
as though because I'm male I'm bad. But the truth is, I've sat and
read. I'm not sure I've posted since my introduction. I've
commiserated, and I've looked for solutions. There are others like me.
I work with some of them.
It hurts to be painted with broad strokes, and I understand that's what
women have dealt with forever... but it's no fun. And Kaldari, for
instance, is the most radical feminist I know... and he's male.
Exclusionary practices are out of line with Wikimedia - at least the
Wikimedia I want to be a part of.
Adrianne, thank you for you post. It was powerful and drew me out of
silence.
Philippe
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I found this entire thread rather entertaining, blown out of proportion.
If we agree to this, I'd like to propose another sub-list
for Caucasian Wikipedians and non-Caucasians and then several other
sub-groups till everyone has their own list. ;)
I'd like a sublist for heterosexual male Jewish Israelis of half-Polish/half-
Iraqi descent, who are Objectivist/Libertarians, and post-Zionists, love Perl,
DocBook/XML, Mandriva Linux, and KDE, prefer to use Commonwealth English and
who like cats better than dogs and who likely have
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipolar_disorder . :-D
</joke>
( Sorry, could not resist. )
Seriously now, I don't think we should split this list based on sub-groups.
Joel on Software wrote something about forking here:
http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2004/09/03.html
He was talking about topical forking which tended to make discussions less
interesting, but I think it doubly holds for target audience forking.
Regarding the "Don't be a dick" article - I've skimmed it and found it
offensive (even though or because I'm classified according to all of the
above) and think that it should be changed to "Don't be a jerk" or something
like that.
Regards,
Shlomi Fish
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