Taking into account is all well and good. This list exists to come up with solutions to the issues. If capitalism is the problem, if socialism is the problem, if religious belief is the problem, wonderful! We know what the problem is. Unfortunately, we can't actually do anything about it. Looking at the alleged historical origins of misogyny does not help us deal with the current issues.

On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Miguelinito <miguelinito@gmail.com> wrote:
Why not? When you're thinking at high level, you have to take
everything into account, usually things that would seem ridiculous
to a lot of people who are not used to thinking at high level, and
it's almost for sure that we won't solve the apple problem, but taking
a step backwards helps seeing things with a more realistic point of view,
specially when you're scope is global. And the fact is that Wikipedia
is an American enterprise affecting the whole world, and another fact
is that the United States is a great country, but also a country with
a lot of ballast from the past. If we really want to be the *free*
encyclopedia, we have to think in a free way, I have to take into
account capitalism, you have to take into account socialism, I have to
take into account religion, and you have to take into account
pornography. Avoiding problems is not the best way to solve them, and
the best way to learn to be wise is being stupid sometime.

Miguel Ángel

> --- On Mon, 14/2/11, Casey Brown <lists@caseybrown.org> wrote:
>> From: Casey Brown <lists@caseybrown.org>

>> Maybe, or just more clear expectations of what isn't the
>> most helpful
>> things here.  I've been seeing a lot of general/deep
>> philosophical
>> questions and topics like the Bible and capitalism.  I
>> don't know
>> about anyone else, but I just click "mark all as read" for
>> those ones.
>> :-)  This list is about increasing gender diversity in
>> Wikimedia
>> projects, not about describing the history of gender issues
>> throughout
>> time.

> I agree with Casey (although I still read most of these posts).
> We can't start the discussion with Adam and Eve.

> Andreas


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