Pete,

Please suggest a revised wording that you feel would be clearer. Then we can request that the board adopt it and amend the resolution accordingly.

Andreas

On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Pete Forsyth <peteforsyth@gmail.com> wrote:
The resolution wording is:

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We feel that it is important and ethical to obtain subject consent for the use of such media, in line with our special mission as an educational and free project. We feel that seeking consent from an image's subject is especially important in light of the proliferation of uploaded photographs from other sources, such as Flickr, where provenance is difficult to trace and subject consent difficult to verify.

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I don't see anything ambiguous about that.

I find it highly ambiguous, and while I tend to agree with you that probably the majority of nude images on Commons should be deleted due to lack of explicit and verifiable declarations of consent, I do not feel the wording quoted above would be helpful in persuading others of that. (In addition, the absence of a clearly documented process for obtaining and expressing consent doesn't help. Again, something that anybody can do, very little technical knowledge required.)

"Consent" is a verb that is only useful in its transitive form. It is meaningless to say "the subject consents." Consents to what? "...for the use of such media" is not specific. Also, "we feel" is not language that lends itself to strong project-specific policies.

-Pete
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