With all due respect to all parties involved: Can you please take this discussion off-list? It seems to mostly be a matter for a small number of people.


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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 15:37:53 -0500
From: marinka@marinkavandam.com
To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Gender gap emails Arbitrator doesn't like

Well, I suppose Kumoiko/Reygula could have reasonably riposted that the proposed email that Arbcom finally did or did not send to his employers was harassment of a sort. However I agree that it seems something of a stretch to accuse you of  voting to ban Carol and hand out a mere slap of the wrist to Corbett.

On topic, are we going to see some more debate about the Slate piece? Anne/Risker is suggesting there was a basic misunderstanding on the part of the author: that the whole thing had nothing to do with gender gap discrimination but behavior.  Would that be your view, Molly? It does strike me as insular.

Marinka (a pseudonym)





On December 12, 2014 at 2:00 PM gorillawarfarewikipedia@gmail.com wrote:

GW, accusing me of hijacking this list for a "vendetta" is a purely untrue and petty accusation. For the last couple of years my goal on the project has been to make it more fair for all editors regardless of status (admin or editor), gender, race, etc.
Well, I’m glad you got some of this very pure fight for fairness in around the harassment you were leveraging against other editors. I’ve spoken out against this behavior because I don’t think people engaging in email harassment campaigns against editors such as myself should be allowed on this list any more than they should be allowed on Wikipedia. There has been discussion on this list recently about how there are so few women (and so few people of any gender) running for the Arbitration Committee, and meanwhile one of the ones helping to keep it an incredibly thankless and often unpleasant place to be is continuing to do so on the very same list.
With that said, of the 2 of us, which one is responsible for participating in banning Carol, participating in setting in motion the series of events that have lead not only many discussion on this list but on Wikipediocracy and now news articles as well? Here's a hint, its not me.
If you read the proposed decision, you’ll see that I did not vote for this. If my participation in the case—where I voted against banning Carol—makes me “responsible for participating in banning Carol,” then we’ll have to agree to disagree.

— Molly (GorillaWarfare)

 
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