On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Risker <risker.wp@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm not disagreeing with you, Andreas. I'm saying that I'd really prefer not to find that just about every thread on the gendergap list wasn't discussing pornography in some way. If you think the culture that pornography creates on the project is harmful and is directly related to the low participation of women on the project, then why do you feel it's a good thing to perpetuate it on this list by constantly discussing it? I suggest to you that distilling the gendergap issue down to "pro-porn culture" when participants in the WikiWomen camp don't even rate this issue in its top 10, and the majority of women participating in discussion over the last few days are saying that it might be an issue but it's not the big issue, is pretty much a classic example of shouting over the voices of women who disagree with your focus. Please think about that for a bit.

Risker/Anne

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I agree with the desire to talk about something else for awhile, but for what it's worth... It's been my observation that it's common, even extremely common, for Wikimedia mailing lists (and mailing lists in general) to fixate on a single or small number of topics for awhile before moving on to something else. Let's not treat this as though weeks or months of discussion had been sidetracked to pornography; it's been a few threads for a few days, and these threads have drawn far more posts than the typical topics on this list. It's also in the nature of e-mail that anyone disinterested in the controversial nexus of Wikimedia and sexuality could ignore these posts and reply to their hearts content on other topics.

Nathan