Thanks. That helps a lot, really, and I will skim the emails now. I really didn't know what the topic of this extensive discussion *was* before, and didn't have the stomach for another protracted censorship discussion.

thanks again,
-- phoebe


On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Katherine Casey <fluffernutter.wiki@gmail.com> wrote:
Phoebe, I would really suggest reading the emails if you're interested in the discussion (or, conversely, not asking for a summary if you're not), but here's a quick-and-dirty condensation off the top of my head:

I started the thread to discuss how disposition of topless photo of a woman on Commons (being used on enwp), and that woman's right to consent or not consent to the photo being used, was being discussed entirely by men. The conversation then veered to how sexual images on Commons are a nearly-intractable problem and how Commons can be unwelcoming to people who try to discuss them, then to discussion of the Board's resolution that we must be sensitive to people's identity rights when photos are from private places, then to how Commons does or doesn't adhere to that resolution, then to how to make Commons adhere (better) to that resolution. There is no final result; there is only a general feeling that Commons's common practice is in dispute with how some people interpret the Board's resolution, that other people feel Commons is already making huge concessions to the ideas in the resolution, and that some individual images and categories of images are rather blatant violations of Commons's and/or the Board's policies/resolutions.

Hope this helps.

-Fluff


On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 11:51 AM, phoebe ayers <phoebe.wiki@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, I haven't read ANY of the emails in the thread, for the petty reason that the subject line makes me cringe every time I see it. And according to my gmail count there's something like 100 mails on the topic, so I'm probably not going to start now. So if indeed there is actual progress being made, if someone could post a 1-para summary of the discussion and what the conclusions are, that would be awesome!

(seriously. Refactoring is almost always a helpful exercise when it comes to long discussions on complicated issues -- for both the participants & those who haven't been following the discussion).

-- phoebe 

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