Context is everything.  If a male editor who was previously contemptuous of women and the idea of addressing the gender gap writes a column supposedly celebrating women scientists with the same tone, that tone would be widely perceived as mockery and not celebration, and that perception would almost certainly be accurate.  I will publish people being provocative to make a significant point about an important issue, but I won't provide a platform for an asshole to be an asshole.  I believe this is a fairly standard editorial position.


On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 2:08 PM, Risker <risker.wp@gmail.com> wrote:
I think you miss my point, Slowking.  It wouldn't have been published at all if not for the author. If a man had written it, I doubt it would have made its way out of Gamaliel's inbox. And if a man with a reputation for negative interactions with women had written it, and somehow or other those aliens from Wikimedia-L had abducted Gamaliel and published the piece, there would have been a 500,000 byte discussion on AN or ANI about whether or not to indef the guy.
 
In other words, the only reason there's a controversy is that the Signpost published a piece that it would have rejected if it had been written by roughly 95% of the active editorship.  I'm relatively certain if I'd written exactly the same piece, they would have published it - but if you did, Slowking, it would not have seen the light of day.
 
Risker/Anne

On 24 February 2016 at 13:59, J Hayes <slowking4@gmail.com> wrote:
"the reaction would have been infinitely more severe if not for the name of the author"

oh no, the reaction is because she is a women. commentators at signpost care not of position, but they could be appalled that a woman is in a position of responsibility. why waste a chance to sealion when someone is celebrating the belated diversity article writing efforts.

it's all about the editing ethics on signpost, lol

On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 1:52 PM, Risker <risker.wp@gmail.com> wrote:

On 24 February 2016 at 13:45, Nathan <nawrich@gmail.com> wrote:
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Additionally, not only have I never heard "badass" used in a derogatory way, I've never even once heard anyone suggest that it might be used as an insult. In my experience it has only ever been a compliment. In the context of Keilana's op-ed, it should be obvious to any reader that she used it positively. 

If exactly the same article had been written by someone who has a long and colourful history of behaviour considered to be very uncivil, nobody would be thinking it was an okay article.  It's only okay because Keilana wrote it, it wouldn't be okay if someone with a history of alleged misogyny wrote it *using exactly the same words*. I doubt very much that the Signpost would have published it had it been written by any number of other people - in fact, I'm doubtful it would have been published if written by any male editor, though Rob could tell us otherwise - but even if they did publish it, the reaction would have been infinitely more severe if not for the name of the author.  
 
Risker/Anne 


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