Hi Kathleen,

I suppose you are writing about this revision (or thereabouts):

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=October_(novel)&direction=next&oldid=617753940

A notability tag is not a "Scarlet A": it is merely a sign that the notability of the topic hasn't been sufficiently asserted.

The best way to avoid it?

Choose multiple, clear, independent sources.

Check the subject-specific notability guidelines. For books, for instance:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(books)

Given a revision with two sources, one from a little-known site called "we love this book", it's unsurprising! Remember that editors come from all backgrounds and we don't all know as much as/the same things as you!

I've thought a lot about notability, as a researcher, so if you want to talk more about it, let me know!

-Jodi

On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 7:39 PM, Kathleen McCook <klmccook@gmail.com> wrote:

The reason I asked to discuss here is to ascertain whether or not there seems to be a different set of notability standards by gender.

I encourage students to contribute to Wikipedia.

But when notability is an editor's decision with so many exceptions...how do you encourage?

Really, I am careful and if a book by a brilliant woman like Zoe Wicomb causes notability queries..how, on earth, can this gender gap be addressed?

Here is Ms. Wicomb's prize announcement at Yale.

http://windhamcampbell.org/2013/winner/zo%C3%AB-wicomb

On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Pete Forsyth <peteforsyth@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Daniel and Elizabeth Case <dancase@frontiernet.net> wrote:

 

On what basis in Clive Cussler notable? 

That he’s a regular denizen of the bestseller lists in many countries who’s had works adapted into major motion pictures (To be honest, I think we should say that “all published works by authors who have their paperbacks displayed prominently in the racks near the front of bookstores at airports are notable “).

Well, I don't know. I had never heard of Cussler before today (don't spend a lot of time in airport bookshops), but I did look at a couple of his novels' Wikipedia articles, and they didn't indicate significance any better than the October article. (One of them had a single, ephemeral reference; the other had 7 that seemed pretty thin.)

I can see how Kathleen would be frustrated by what surely appears from her perspective to be a double standard.

Pete

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