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On Oct 22, 2015, at 3:50 PM, Neotarf <neotarf@gmail.com> wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee#Comments_on_ArbCom_and_gender

The speech itself is about 40 minutes, the Q&A is about 30-35 minutes, so if you listen to both, it will be a little over an hour. I have also added links to the texts of any documents mentioned.


On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Kevin Gorman <kgorman@gmail.com> wrote:
The entire session was longer than just the Q&A, and dealt with ways
to appropriately handle online harassment, coming from someone holding
a named chair at a major university who is widely recognized as an
expert on issues of online harrassment (one of *the* experts.)  Since
arbs get no formal training in how to handle online harrassment beyond
what ENWP provides and a little bit of guidance from WMF, it's just
flat out amazing that an arb who wasn't present for the session would
refuse the minimal time committment.  If they don't have that much
free time for free expert guidance, they either don't care about
online harrassment (which is an awful lot of what they deal with) or
simply don't have time (in which, given the other time committments
being an arb entails, means they can't possibly have time to be an
arb.)

I think next election cycle two of my questions to every candidate
will be "Did you watch Danielle Citron's keynote, and if so, what are
your thoughts on it?" and "Did you watch Sumana Harihareswara's
keynote (from wikiconf 2014,) and if so, what are your thoughts on
it?"  I have a hard time imagining voting for anyone who says they
didn't have time to watch them, or who can't come up with a reasonable
set of comments on them.  I doubt I'm alone in that.

----
Kevin Gorman

On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Fæ <faewik@gmail.com> wrote:
> FYI, a 45 minutes commitment. Not saying much more, I'm tired of being a
> punch bag for Arbs and ex-Arbs.
>
> Fae
>
> On 19 Oct 2015 19:47, "Kevin Gorman" <kgorman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I've been out of touch with the world for most of the last week, but
>> I'm extremely disappointed to see the only active arbitrator to
>> comment on that discussion so far just asked for a tl;dr when given a
>> two hour long video of free advice from a leading expert in online
>> harassment issues.  Almost every case arb takes deals with harassment
>> in one form or another - given the time they spend discussing
>> trivialities, let alone drafting cases and on private lists, I would
>> hope that no arbitrator (none of the sitting ones have formal training
>> in dealing with online harrassment, AFAIK, although I may be missing
>> someone) would refuse to spend a much smaller amount of time hearing
>> one of the top experts n the subject talk about it.  If you can't
>> accept a two hour time committment, you probably shouldn't be an arb.
>>
>> ----
>> Kevin Gorman
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 8:55 AM, Fæ <faewik@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Links:
>> > 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS-Y-FuzAH4&t=85m30s
>> > 2.
>> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee#Comments_on_ArbCom_and_gender
>> >
>> > Folks may be interested in watching the Q&A session at the recent
>> > WikiConference USA where gender and harassment was discussed for about
>> > 45 minutes.[1] It makes for an interesting summary of how Arbcom is
>> > perceived with regard to handling harassment cases, and the types of
>> > harassment of significant concern for our community.
>> >
>> > This has been raised on the Arbcom noticeboard[2], it will be
>> > interesting to see how many current Arbcom members make a public
>> > comment, or indeed if they are perfectly happy with the way Arbcom
>> > currently works, or not.
>> >
>> > Fae
>> > --
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