On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Risker <risker.wp@gmail.com> wrote:

Give me a break, Neotarf. I am critiquing the article and the decisions by its author and its publisher. It doesn't surprise me that having someone of Keilana's stature drop more f-bombs in a couple of paragraphs than I heard on a bus full of high school students this morning will change the climate to suggest that it is now perfectly acceptable to curse out people everywhere under every circumstance.

For some strange reason, it appears the people on this list are celebrating that fact. And it has nothing to do with gender, really, and everything to do with making Wikipedia a pleasant place to work. Keilana's actions have encouraged people to make it less so.

Risker/Anne

Keilana didn't curse anyone out. That should be kept clear. But it has been commonplace and acceptable to curse in Wikipedia discussions for ages. You have witnessed the failure of attempts to curtail cursing etc. first hand, and "civility police" has at times been one of the worst insults slung around on the English Wikipedia. What is strange for some is that Keilana's op-ed is an example of one of the most benign uses of strong language, and yet it has garnered a stronger negative reaction than many much more serious and damaging profane personal attacks.

Additionally, not only have I never heard "badass" used in a derogatory way, I've never even once heard anyone suggest that it might be used as an insult. In my experience it has only ever been a compliment. In the context of Keilana's op-ed, it should be obvious to any reader that she used it positively.