On 2/9/11 1:21 AM, patricia morales wrote:
> Dear friends,
>
> Thank you for this inspiring dialogue. Inspired by the convergence of
> opinions, I believe it would be good to make a concrete difference in
> Wikipedia.
>
> A suggestion I would like to share is to develop a number of articles
> (100,000? -in total in various languages) in 1 or 2 years (?) related
> to women. These articles may receive a symbol (eg an F inside a circle
> in red, pink?) Similarly (not in the procedure) to articles with a
> star. They could also be on a list, and that list, if possible, be
> composed of several languages.
>
> For example:
> existing articles on Maria Curie, etc.
> articles with more biographies of women)
> articles on women's rights
> articles on the role of women in indigenous religions (Pachamama, etc)
> or concepts (motherland, matria, etc)
>
> A cross-sensitive women's proposal, which is poorly represented at
> editorial as well as thematic level.
>
> Wikipedia would be proactive inviting both women and men to break this
> gap.
> At the same time this initiative can feminize Wikipedia progressively
> attracting more women as editors and have more female readers.
>
>
> Patricia
> University of Leuven (projects on solidarity at UNESCO Chair on
> Building Sustainable Peace)
>
> --- On *Tue, 2/8/11, Susan Spencer /<
susan.spencer@gmail.com>/* wrote:
>
>
> From: Susan Spencer <
susan.spencer@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Gendergap] A pet peeve / cliche
> To:
gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org
> Date: Tuesday, February 8, 2011, 11:55 PM
>
> First, Sandy,
>
> I totally agree with you - the few men who
> use negative locker room talk about women have
> caused the downfall of many women in management.
> The majority of men don't make statements like this,
> but they do let them be discussed.
> So good guys, stop being a part of the problem. Tell the
> insecure guys to shut up, that nobody wants to hear that
> stuff anymore.
>
> Second, Miguel,
>
> Thank you for pointing out that the gender gap
> exists all over the world.
>
> You propose the Wikipedia site itself might be a problem,
> because women don't want to work with it because
> it isn't WYSIWYG. <*sigh*>
> The reasons being:
>
> 1. "men are a bit more obsessive in their work than women"
> 2. "maybe it's the look of the site, not attractive enough"
> 3. "women tend to focus their attention on people, instead of
> things, as men do"
>
> #1 & #3 have been stated about women and work for over a century.
>
> #2 --> Has a woman *actually* told you that she won't post to
> Wikipedia because she finds the interface too difficult?
> You're proposing that women don't want to post as experts
> because they don't want to be an expert in using a complex interface.
> Because of a deficiency with women, they don't want to become
> experts with a system that would allow them to post their
> expert opinion.
> I sense a catch-22 argument here.
> Reworking the Wikipedia interface is not really addressing the
> problem.
>
> Another reason why "women don't want to ____ because ______"
> We should have a Wiki page on these bizarre reasons.
> If we put them in a long list it might not help anyone, but
> it might be humorous. We could just refer to reason #1054
> or #782 or #11659 with links to the Wiki page. Good for
> a laugh. Women could post any new funnies, like "women
> aren't as obsessive about their work as men are".
> This might become the most popular set of pages on Wikipedia.
> Of course, it would probably attract trolls. So let's not.
>
> To have a serious response to the problem, let's have a
> 'Women Post to Wiki' month, and have a banner
> about it on every Wiki page during the month. It validates that
> the world community accepts women as experts, and invites
> women to post who may have thought about it before, but didn't.
> I love that Google has different logos every day. Wiki
> can have a different logo for that month.
>
> - Susan Spencer Conklin
>
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