Carol....let's just deconstruct what you're saying here.If we were to take the words "female" and "male" and "women" and "men" out of it entirely, would it sum up one of the major issues in editor retention? I'm going to be honest, I've read a genuinely disproportionate number of insulting edits made by women (as a percentage of overall edits by editors I know to be women), and it's something that needs to be kept in mind; while the overwhelming majority of editors are male, I've not seen any evidence that a male editor is any more or less likely to behave badly than a female editor. It's just more obvious because they outnumber us 10 to 1.Risker/AnneOn 30 December 2014 at 09:57, Carol Moore dc <carolmooredc@verizon.net> wrote:As long as (mostly male) Wikipedia editors are allowed to insult and harass editors whose edits they oppose for whatever reason Wikipedia cannot retain women, no matter how much they follow the suggestions below. (Unless of course they focus on shaming the WMF until it uses its terms of service against offending editors and administrators and arbitrators and that is my particular interest at this point.)
Since few women have any interest in editing in a hostile editing environment. Many males leave quickly for the same reason. This is especially true in political, economic or current events areas which too many males consider their fiefdoms where womens' input not appreciated. And FYI just 2% of males is too many IF they are allowed to get away with insults and harassment.
So reigning in the worst offenders on Wikipedia - without punishing even harder those who oppose - or EVEN lose their tempers about - their offenses is necessary.
On 12/30/2014 8:30 AM, Tim Davenport wrote:
Ms. Stierch's comments are exactly on target.
Do the GGTF-type organizing off wiki, not on-wiki. That's not the place for it.
Start your own message board akin to Wikipediocracy. Organize (and vent) there.
Use Facebook, etc.
Concentrate on developing new feminist editors, helping them through the steep learning curve, with an emphasis on content, content, content. Nobody is going to have a problem with that.
Tim Davenport
Carrite on WP /// Randy from Boise on WPO
Corvallis, OR
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