Knowing what these traits are, even if they are uncontrollable, may also
be useful for educating others about them. If someone is creeped out by
something and actually knows why it's creeping them out, it may be
possible for them to realise that, oh, it's just blah, and not actually
a threat. And if on-wiki we notice someone who might be put off by
another user's behaviour, reaching out to them and explaining why that
behaviour is happening (especially if it's fairly normal, which a lot of
the things that may seem weird to outsiders often are) could do a lot to
put them at ease.
Possibly.
-I
On 10/05/16 17:02, JJ Marr wrote:
Other highlights:
From the list of "creepy" behavior
Laughing at inappropriate times
Talking too much about a topic
Displaying too much or too little emotion
Smiling peculiarly
Having excessively pale skin
Having bags under their eyes
and then
Here’s the thing: not being creepy /isn’t that
hard/.
Many of the examples of creepy behavior listed in
the Knox University
study could be avoided throughbasic social calibration
<http://www.doctornerdlove.com/2012/10/art-social-calibration/all/1/> and
being aware of the other person’s signals.
Setting aside that a lot of Wikipedians don't have "basic social
calibration", a lot of these behaviors are uncontrollable in general.
If you're "suggesting that Wikipedia editors display aberrant behavior
which prospective female editors find creepy, making it less likely
that they will contribute?", as another has proposed, a lot (but not
all) of these "creepy traits" that allegedly make women less likely to
contribute are uncontrollable by those who have them. I need to stop
smiling peculiarly? What does that mean? And if we want to attract
women to Wikipedia by removing creepy people, does that mean I might
get banned due to me talking "too much" about a certain topic?
On May 10, 2016 12:25 PM, "Nathan" <nawrich(a)gmail.com
<mailto:nawrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
It boils down to "people with aberrant behavior or bearing produce
anxiety in women." This is drawn from a Facebook survey. It's
interesting, even if the "study" doesn't really produce any more
knowledge than most other Facebook surveys.
The link to the problem of addressing Wikipedia's gendergap seems
tenuous; are you suggesting that Wikipedia editors display
aberrant behavior which prospective female editors find creepy,
making it less likely that they will contribute?
On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Neotarf <neotarf(a)gmail.com
<mailto:neotarf@gmail.com>> wrote:
A study published in the journal New Ideas in Psychology,
unfortunately behind a paywall, reviewed by Dr. NerdLove. [1]
Some highlights:
*"*So we’re not allowed to give women compliments? – *No,
telling a woman how sexy she is isn’t a compliment, especially
when you don’t have that level of intimacy with her."
*"One of the keys to what made someone creepy was the
potential for ambiguity. The study’s authors suggest that
because one’s creep-radar is keyed towards finding potential
threats, the ambiguousness of somebody’s behavior could make
people uncomfortable. After all, if you’re continually
wondering if this person actually poses a threat to you,
you’re left in a state of anxious paralysis; you’re
continually on edge trying to determine just what the
appropriate reaction to the situation is. Guessing wrong can
have consequences, after all; misjudge a potential threat and
now you’ve made yourself vulnerable to someone who means you
harm."
*"One of the most common ways guys are creepy is by ignoring
issues of boundaries and demonstrating that they have more
information about somebody than they should." Example from
Instagram: He: "So I take it you're staying at the Excalibur?"
She: "Excuse me, do you not seriously realize how f*cking
creepy it is for a stranger to message a woman out of the blue
insinuating he knows where she is?"
*From the comments: "Someone who comes close to that line and
manages not to cross it obviously knows where it is."
[1]
http://www.doctornerdlove.com/2016/05/the-science-of-being-creepy/
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