Hi, Birgitte,
It would certainly have reduced my defensiveness if it had been immediately
clear that I could have appealed the apparent charges of vandalism to
neutral third parties. I noticed on my Watchlist recently, the edit summary
left by Cluebot (with respect to someone else's edit this time, not mine),
which included the comment, "False Positive? Let us know here: [link]" or
something very much to that effect. Something like that in the Huggle
template would have minimized my concerns from the outset and I suspect
would do so for others as well.
Best,
Charlotte
On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 12:07 PM, <Birgitte_sb(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
Probably the best place to put a plug would be the in
templates used by
Huggle. "If you think this warning is inappropriate, report it [[here]]"
That way people that insist on using off-putting templates in edge cases
are automatically directing any offended parties to the attention of people
who will respond to there concern more carefully. Maybe that could
short-circuit the escalating defensiveness that often occurs between newbies
and patrollers.
BirgitteSB
On Jun 25, 2011, at 1:41 PM, carolmooredc(a)verizon.net wrote:
Yes, fred we must put our time where our mouths
are.
By watching Wikiquette_alerts and by encouraging use of them.
Where's the best newbie forum for that?
Going through a variety of essays and putting in a plug also might
help...
It would be less manageable then - but then if
enough people did it and
Wikipedia had a reputation of chiding those who go out of their way to
be obnoxious, perhaps they would learn something. (I've seen really
obnoxious people quit after the most gentle chiding.)
CM
On 6/24/2011 10:35 PM, Fred Bauder wrote:
>> The below is a reminder of how useful it would be to put more emphasis
>> on letting new editors know that Wikiquette Alerts exist, encouraging
>> them to complain and then encouraging admins to just go to editors who
>> attack others, even with minor snide remarks, and encourage them not to
>> do it. That's the kind of peer pressure that works best.
>>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikiquette_alerts
>>
>> Even as a very assertive person and a relatively bold editor, it took
me
>> almost two years before I started going
to such venues for help. Sadly,
>> I didn't often get it. I think it would be the one single thing that
>> could keep women who start editing from stopping. The bad boys might
>> call it "snitching." We should call it empowerment - or maybe,
>> considering the average age of the perpetrators, good parenting! ;-)
>>
>> It really has to be it's own little wikiproject, or subgroup, or
>> something. I haven't been paying much attention to wikipedia last
could
months myself so can't remember the various
options.
Carol in dc
Yes, I could follow that regularly. It seems manageable.
Fred
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