Andreas,

Again: Stop canvassing your POV!!! This list (and Commons-l) are not for that.

That is my last warning
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Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer.


2011/5/18 Andreas Kolbe <jayen466@yahoo.com>
This response here is emblematic of the misogyny and ageism pervading Commons:


Coming up with "stuff old women like" would actually be a good idea, but I don't think the
contributor meant it that way.

At this deletion request


I pointed out that the creator of the manga image placed it on a photograph of the Escher 
museum, making it appear his image appeared there. This is deceptive, and against 
Commons image guidelines. The only response to the deletion request so far is a Keep.

The request to remove featured status from the Edge of the World manga image, started
independently of our discussions by a Russian Wikipedia editor, is heading for a Keep:


Here is the original nomination:


The image failed to achieve featured status in German Wikipedia:


7 for, 8 against, which based on objective criteria of artistic and educational merit is still kind
to the image.

I am thinking of writing a letter to the Commons Village Pump to ask the community to take
a long hard look at its basic competence. 

Sue, any ideas?

Andreas



--- On Tue, 17/5/11, Sarah Stierch <sarah@sarahstierch.com> wrote:

From: Sarah Stierch <sarah@sarahstierch.com>
Subject: Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons
To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org
Date: Tuesday, 17 May, 2011, 16:19


Hi dz,

Great to hear you'd like to be involved. I've been really busy the past few weeks with finishing school, a trip to California, and GLAM related activities (oh and Regional Ambassadorness!) - so I haven't had time to sit down and get my "stuff together" for the HOW-TO. But, I'd love to add you to our HOW-TO gang if you like.

=)

Sarah


On 5/17/2011 8:17 AM, Deanna Zandt wrote:

I'd also be interested in contributing-- the BLP experience of last week was incredibly enlightening, and got me thinking about access... having the right key unlocked a wealth of knowledge and aid. How to make that key more widely available, or second nature/common knowledge? I'm hoping to blog about it soon. In any case, I'd like to come at some of the HOW-TO issues in general from that noob perspective.



cheers
dz


On May 16, 2011, at 9:23 PM, Pete Forsyth wrote:

On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Sarah Stierch <sarah@sarahstierch.com> wrote:
On 5/16/2011 11:49 AM, Pete Forsyth wrote:
Anybody interested in tackling this issue?
-Pete
I'm working on diving into the HOW-TO this summer for Wiki. I do want to see all of these topics covered - and I'll contribute in anyway I can. Where do we start? ;-) 

Hi Sarah,

I'd be really happy to work on this with you! (And anyone else).

My sense is that there's a lot of work to do in identifying the problem -- or rather, evaluating the collection of interrelated issues, and determining where it's best to focus. The things that seem significant to me are:

(1) Picture of the Day on Commons often seems to be the source of unnecessary strife (moreso than, say, PotD on English Wikipedia);
(2) It appears that there is not a clearly identified set of editorial values around what DOES constitute a worthwhile PotD on Commons;
(3) The technical and social processes for setting a PotD are difficult to understand and poorly documented.

How about if we collaborate a bit on documenting how things currently work? I think that process will point the way toward recommending a solution.

I've set up a page for this project, if you're game! http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Peteforsyth/PotD

-Pete
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