Well, I would call the case where “one person realizes the other person was right” an agreement not a dispute J but I agree with the thrust of what you are saying. Certainly there are interactions among editors that are helpful, productive and friendly. The question is whether we get enough good experiences that the occasional bad experience doesn’t dint our enthusiasm. The Clubhouse paper

 

http://files.grouplens.org/papers/wp-gender-wikisym2011.pdf

 

suggests that new editors will have bad experiences in their first eits, and that bad experiences are positively correlated with attrition.

 

Kerry

 


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What’s missing from this?:

 

>I don’t think most disputes get “resolved”. I think one person simply gives up. Maybe they don’t think the issue is that important, >maybe they feel that they don’t have the time to argue it, maybe they feel that the other person involved is too unpleasant to want to try to engage with, maybe they’ve found that no matter what they do, they never make a difference.

 

Give up? It’s “maybe one person realizes the other person was right, and does it their way from then on, without any hard feelings.” It has happened to me quite a few times. That’s the sort of outcome I was talking about.

 

Of course, I think of these in terms of pure content disputes (should we or should we not mention something? how should we format this table? and so forth ...) because that’s what most of those I’ve been involved in have been. Disputes over someone’s conduct are something else entirely, because it’s harder for people to admit they were wrong in that department. And why I always say it cannot be repeated enough that, when you realize the argument is no longer about what you were originally arguing about but has instead become a meta-argument about the argument itself, you should stop immediately as it will no longer accomplish anything constructive to continue.

 

Daniel Case