I agree that we could build on the sandbox model; add an extra filter to RC, design a different visual background for those pages, and otherwise keep this creative experimentation "within" existing wikis.  But we can also test it out on on a different experimental site, if we don't have that investment in design at the moment.

(In the long run I'm a monowikiist, and think the ideal is 1 "wiki" that supports all of the diversity of our current collective endeavors)

+S

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Pharos <pharosofalexandria@gmail.com> wrote:
I like the idea of experimenting with new knowledgespaces, with new workflows to  support them.  With enough investment in design, I think this could be done on a large scale right in the project namespace of English Wikipedia.

Thanks,
Pharos

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Sarah (SV) <slimvirgin@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Samuel Klein <meta.sj@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Jason.  I enjoyed reading this, though the conclusions remind me of _Seeing Like a State_.   Not all edits, editors, and subcommunities are equal.  Trying to shift about contributors en masse in a way that is convenient for large organizations (or for those of us who like crunching large datasets :)   can be a total failure in practice.  

Let's set up a new space where we can experiment with fast influxes of newbies.  The current large projects are not suited for this.

​I believe good design is a key issue for editor attraction and retention, so that we can produce professional-looking articles we can be proud of and want to write. I would also love to see the Foundation redesign the front page. It's hard for the community to take the lead when it comes to design, and it seems to fall off the radar when people discuss editor retention and gender gap.

Sarah


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