Hi everyone,

Apologies for my bad English. English is not my mother tongue.

Let us not use this mailing list to discuss religion. Let us concentrate on strategies to improve participation of women in Wikimedia projects instead.

Thank you

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Netha Hussain
User: Netha Hussain
Student of Medicine and Surgery
nethahussain.blogspot.com
swethaambari.wordpress.com



remember that women's rights are way, way more important than
the interests of Wikimedia Foundation.
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:58 AM, Ryan Kaldari <rkaldari@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Just wanted to say that I didn't take any offense from Michael's
comments. I was probably a bit out of line in my characterization of
Christianity. I was just trying to point out that any religion, when
taken literally, can be problematic. There were actually many books
published during the American Civil War about how the Bible endorsed
slavery. They make a convincing argument if you accept all of their
Bible quotes taken out of context.

The part about women being subservient is actually quite pervasive in
the bible, both old and new testament. See:
1 Peter 3:1-6
1 Timothy 2:11-14
Colossians 3:18
Ephesians 5:22-23
1 Corinthians 14:33-35
1 Corinthians 11:3-10
Isaiah 19:16
Deuteronomy 22:20-21
Genesis 3:16
Genesis 2:18
This is certainly not a novel interpretation. Indeed it seems very
difficult to argue that the Bible does not consider women subservient to
men.

The part about beards is Old Testament and only taken seriously by
Orthodox Christians, Amish, Mennonites, etc.

The part about putting adulterers to death is also Old Testament and
obviously not taken seriously by most Christians, although John Calvin
did argue that the Bible justified the death penalty for adultery (as
have other Christians historically).

All that said, I am not trying to imply that modern Christianity is an
oppressive religion. I'm just saying that historically, it has a few
skeletons in its closet and it went through some serious growing pains,
as is Islam.

Ryan Kaldari

On 9/23/11 7:00 PM, Michael J. Lowrey wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Emily Monroe<emilymonroe03@gmail.com>  wrote:
>> Michael Lowry, what you just said was said was sarcastic and potentially
>> uncivil.
> So Ryan and Carol can lie about MY religion, and I'M the one accused
> of incivility?
>

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