Do you actually know that the 9% I reffer is the study who shows that only
9% of wp users are female, right? Because for your answer I don't quite
think you did.
And I'm here because I'm a woman and a wikipedian. I'm sorry if I don't
felt
under group pression and thinks exactly like you do.
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*Béria Lima*
Wikimedia Portugal <http://wikimedia.pt>
(351) 963 953 042
*Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre
acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a
fazer.*
On 1 October 2011 14:55, Maggie <rockerrepro(a)gmail.com> wrote:
@Beria
I'm not clear what point you are trying to prove, other than the 9% of
"girls'" voices don't matter. I also find it questionable that you
refer to
women as girls and don't hesitate ponder why you don't call men boys.
Many women, like myself, get driven off of WP due to frustration with the
hierarchy, which does exist. Women are treated with less respect, women are
questioned for their motives, women are called prudish if they object to
sexualizing images--or they are told their voices are not important because
they only comprise 9% of the population.
Why do you think they only comprise 9% then?
My goal on WP is to make it more diverse, and TBH I'm not too into this
picture discussion that has gone on for months. But it doesn't mean that it
doesn't matter or it isn't an important one, and it doesn't mean that the
women who care about it aren't important.
Offense is not the reason here, IMO. Offense barely scratches the surface.
I can imagine that many of the people on this list are angry--they are angry
that women are being objectified and because women are in the minority on
the community and it's an uninviting, sometimes terribly creepy atmosphere,
their voices do not matter.
As for badly written? My god that is the worst you can say? In writing
terms that is just snide and a low blow. Basically, only someone who can
think of no other insult would say this. "Well it's badly written and has
spelling mistakes!" Come on, get a fucking life.
Wikipedia is set up so that only people who look for these
articles/pictures will know about voting procedures. So of course if there
is a vote, the majority would probably be overall positive unless serious
canvassing went on to let people who care about the other side know about it
so it evens out. Canvassing is set up to prevent this--I believe it's
actually a way of biasing the community to serve only the community, and not
the readers. Because the readers are--the world. Telling people about the
topic is just like how any election goes. I guess unless you are in some
sort of fake election where people are led to believe that their votes
actually count.
Nowhere did you prove that she lied in that article. You only stated how
you disagree with her opinion. Obviously you are not part of this group for
the interest of women, otherwise you would care about that 9%'s opinion---so
why are you subscribing???
--Maggie
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 5:49 AM, B?ria Lima <beria.lima(a)wikimedia.pt>
wrote:
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2011-September/069078.html
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*B?ria Lima*
Wikimedia Portugal <http://wikimedia.pt>
(351) 963 953 042
*Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. ? isso o que
estamos a fazer.*
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