On 2/6/2011 1:19 PM, Brandon Harris wrote:

On 2/6/11 10:10 AM, Fred Bauder wrote:

Cracking down on hasty deleters and new-page patrolers is productive of
much heat and little light. It amounts to a lot of heavy lifting for very
little outcome.

I think many women have enough patience or insight to stick around long
enough to get though preliminary unpleasantness, survive the systemic
problems we have, and make substantial contributions to content and
policy, particularly if there is social support.
	I don't think this is a wise perspective.

	The treatment that new users receive is very clearly one of the reasons 
why they don't stick around.  Simply saying "oh, they'll get over it in 
time" doesn't do anything to help solve the problem, it only perpetuates it.

Yeah, I'm not the only person on this mailing list who has stated that I stopped editing in the beginning due to this issue. The main reason that I decided to start editing again was because I was a member of a team, a team that stands by one another when an outsider stirs the pot. :)

And yes, that's from social support, but, new editors rarely have that.

Sarah

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