Card-carrying librarian here.  Can someone let me in on our takeover plans?   Email me.   Thanks.

On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 5:49 PM, J Hayes <slowking4@gmail.com> wrote:
yes, lambs to the slaughter
echoing andrew lih,
i have been to a few wiki loves libraries
and all the librarians are aware of the toxic culture
but the militant ones are biding their time
for the takeover.
i was questioning DGG about some librarian ethics
but he dismissed them.

also about the "political moment" response
we need to start recruiting candidates for arbcom now.
i asked Rosiestep , but she demurred
can't say i blame her.


On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Neotarf <neotarf@gmail.com> wrote:
"...now pitching the idea that ARL libraries take over editing chunks of Wikipedia..." It does sound like a remake of Bambi Meets Godzilla. 

Wonder how that would go over in Canada--looks like they have a number of ARL libraries http://www.arl.org/membership#.ViU1omtAeKI  Sounds like the kind of thing LAC might regards as a “high risk” activity.  http://o.canada.com/news/national/federal-librarians-fear-being-muzzled-under-new-code-of-conduct  And there is already an old code of conduct that mentions diversity and harassment.  http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/about-us/Pages/code-conduct-value-ethics.aspx#h

On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 1:52 PM, J Hayes <slowking4@gmail.com> wrote:
right,
 here's the tweet from an audience member at a ARL conference 
https://twitter.com/LibSkrat/status/651786423138430976

it is quoted on one of fuzheado's slides.


On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Neotarf <neotarf@gmail.com> wrote:
I have posted a transcript of the Q&A portion: https://neotarf.wordpress.com/2015/10/19/danielle-citrons-wikicon-online-harassment-speech-qa/ and added links to the documents referenced.

@Fae thanks for the link, I didn't know you could link to a specific point in a video
@J Hayes "cultural buzzsaw" tweet?

On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 1:08 PM, J Hayes <slowking4@gmail.com> wrote:
yes,
nice for arbcom to see how they are perceived

and Andrew Lih mentioned the "cultural buzzsaw" tweet for importance of fixing culture as one of the things wikipedia must do.

this was for an audience of the US powers that be; it will be interesting to see the impact on future conduct.

On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Jane Darnell <jane023@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, that was an interesting Q&A - I was familiar with most of the material discussed in the talk (and a lot of it has been discussed here before), but I was surprised by the emotional response afterwards and the number of comments/questions.

On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 5:55 PM, Fæ <faewik@gmail.com> wrote:
Links:
1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS-Y-FuzAH4&t=85m30s
2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee#Comments_on_ArbCom_and_gender

Folks may be interested in watching the Q&A session at the recent
WikiConference USA where gender and harassment was discussed for about
45 minutes.[1] It makes for an interesting summary of how Arbcom is
perceived with regard to handling harassment cases, and the types of
harassment of significant concern for our community.

This has been raised on the Arbcom noticeboard[2], it will be
interesting to see how many current Arbcom members make a public
comment, or indeed if they are perfectly happy with the way Arbcom
currently works, or not.

Fae
--
faewik@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae

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