Dear Risker and Marie,

You both make very valuable points! Under the umbrealla of +Feminism (www.plusfeminism.org), part of what were are trying to do is create an organizer's toolkit, with suggested organizing workflow and training materials, that other feminist, thematic edit-a-thons can use and remix. Thus, if someone wanted to start Politics+Feminism or Medicine+Feminism, the barrier to entry would be much lower. We would be very happy to have this happen. 

All best wishes,
Siân Evans + Jacqueline Mabey + Michael Mandiberg 

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   1. Re: Call for Participation: 2016 Art+Feminism Wikipedia
      Edit-a-thon (Risker)
   2. Request for advice about editathons (Pine W)
   3. Re: Request for advice about editathons (J Hayes)
   4. Re: Request for advice about editathons (Lennart Guldbrandsson)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 17:25:48 -0500
From: Risker <risker.wp@gmail.com>
To: "Addressing gender equity and exploring ways to increase the
        participation of women within Wikimedia projects."
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Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Call for Participation: 2016 Art+Feminism
        Wikipedia       Edit-a-thon
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Is that you I see volunteering to organize one, Marie?  :-)

I suspect that is the reason, to be honest - nobody specifically taking the
bull by the horns.  It requires interest in the subject, and a willingness
and ability to organize the events.   Economics is not a particularly
popular subject (comparatively speaking) in the Wikipedia world - the
entire topic area could use a lot of work, not just the aspects relating to
women or feminism - and like anything else, the smaller the number of
people participating in a topic area, the less likely there will be
individuals who take on the challenge of organizing collaborative events.

As to Women in Politics, I think this is probably (at least for women in
Western countries) one of the better covered areas, simply because most of
our  major language Wikipedias treat all politicians at what they consider
to be notable levels of government in pretty much the same way, using
essentially standardized formats.

Risker/Anne

On 6 November 2015 at 06:16, Marie Earley <eiryel@hotmail.com> wrote:

> As much as I like to see an event like this happening, and the Women in
> Science event, I'm left wondering why there are no similar events for Women
> in Politics or Economics + Feminism.
>
> Marie
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 10:47:08 -0500
> From: info@art.plusfeminism.org
> To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: [Gendergap] Call for Participation: 2016 Art+Feminism Wikipedia
> Edit-a-thon
>
>
> Dear Gender gap mailing list members,
>
> We are in the process of organizing the third annual international
> Art+Feminism Wikipedia Edit-a-thon. The New York event will be held at the
> Dorothy and Lewis B. Cullman Education and Research Building at MoMA on
> Saturday, March 5, 2016. We are looking for support in the form of
> participants and suggestions.
>
> Last year, over 1500 participants at the Museum of Modern Art in New York
> and more than 75 node events around the world participated in
> Art+Feminism’s second annual Wikipedia Edit-a-thon, resulting in the
> creation of nearly 400 new pages and significant improvements to 500
> articles on Wikipedia. *Together, we can double those numbers in 2016! *
>
> If you’re interested in hosting an edit-a-thon in your city over the
> weekend of March 4-6, 2016, please be in touch. There are funds available
> to help node events pay for childcare and refreshments. You can reach us
> at: info@art.plusfeminism.org.
>
> If you want to help out in other ways, we are also gathering research
> materials for the March event:
>
>
>    - Suggested Topics
>    - Articles needing creation
>    - Articles needing expansion and/or cleanup
>    - Suggestions for online research materials on women and the arts
>    - Any existing documentation you might be willing to share on
>    Wikipedia editing or conflict resolution online
>    - You can find more information about the project and upcoming events
>    on our meet-up page:
>    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/ArtAndFeminism
>    - Or on our website: http://art.plusfeminism.org
>
>
> I encourage you to forward this message on at your discretion.
>
> Thank you, and we look forward to hearing from you!
>
> All best,
>
> Siân Evans + Jacqueline Mabey + Michael Mandiberg
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Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 14:38:28 -0800
From: Pine W <wiki.pine@gmail.com>
To: "Addressing gender equity and exploring ways to increase the
        participation of women within Wikimedia projects."
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Hi GG mailing list and Maria from WMF Eval,

Cascadia Wikimedians ran a series of editathons at the University of
Washington with themes like "Women and astronomy" and "Women and Health
Sciences". We did some communications through the University's Facebook
pages and mailing lists. While we had regular attendance from veteran
Wikipedians and from university librarians, we had very little attendance
from current students on campus who we had hoped would attend.

I heard from a female undergraduate that there was buzz and interest on
campus in what we were doing, but few people took the next step of coming
to one of our events.

Another comment I heard at Wikiconference USA is that university editathons
are most successful if there's a current undergraduate on campus who is
interested and recruits their friends. In the absence of that, the
university editathon model tends to have mediocre outcomes.

Any suggestions about how to increase attendance if we decide to try this
again in the future?

Thanks,
Pine
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Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 18:12:40 -0500
From: J Hayes <slowking4@gmail.com>
To: "Addressing gender equity and exploring ways to increase the
        participation of women within Wikimedia projects."
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Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Request for advice about editathons
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i agree the trend is low undergraduate attendance if not part of grade

some campus marketing (fliers, partnership with groups seems in order)
but we don't have a handle on it.
major divide between readers and editors seems hard to close.

On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 5:38 PM, Pine W <wiki.pine@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi GG mailing list and Maria from WMF Eval,
>
> Cascadia Wikimedians ran a series of editathons at the University of
> Washington with themes like "Women and astronomy" and "Women and Health
> Sciences". We did some communications through the University's Facebook
> pages and mailing lists. While we had regular attendance from veteran
> Wikipedians and from university librarians, we had very little attendance
> from current students on campus who we had hoped would attend.
>
> I heard from a female undergraduate that there was buzz and interest on
> campus in what we were doing, but few people took the next step of coming
> to one of our events.
>
> Another comment I heard at Wikiconference USA is that university
> editathons are most successful if there's a current undergraduate on campus
> who is interested and recruits their friends. In the absence of that, the
> university editathon model tends to have mediocre outcomes.
>
> Any suggestions about how to increase attendance if we decide to try this
> again in the future?
>
> Thanks,
> Pine
>
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Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 00:42:47 +0100
From: Lennart Guldbrandsson <l_guldbrandsson@hotmail.com>
To: Gendergap <gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Request for advice about editathons
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Good question. In our experience from the weekly editathons in Gothenburg (https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Projekt_kvinnor/Kvinnliga_huvudpersoner_p%C3%A5_Wikipedia) there are a few things we've learned:

* even though people are interested, it may take a while before they actually come. In a few cases, people thought about it for several months before showing up.
* media reports are key to reaching newcomers and the reports need to be positive, including reporting on results ("we've created this many articles", etc)
* recruiting people with a large network is also a big plus. If you can get that person enthusiastic about the editathons, he or she can be better than any poster or article in the newspaper.
* the place needs to be easy to find, centrally located and feel homey/welcoming. Signs pointing towards the editathon is a good idea
* make a welcoming project page (ours is a work in progress)

But realistically, the bulk of the work is going to be done by the core team, so make sure you have fun even if noone shows up.


Best wishes,

Lennart Guldbrandsson

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Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 18:12:40 -0500
From: slowking4@gmail.com
To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Request for advice about editathons

i agree the trend is low undergraduate attendance if not part of grade
some campus marketing (fliers, partnership with groups seems in order) but we don't have a handle on it.major divide between readers and editors seems hard to close.
On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 5:38 PM, Pine W <wiki.pine@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi GG mailing list and Maria from WMF Eval,

Cascadia Wikimedians ran a series of editathons at the University of Washington with themes like "Women and astronomy" and "Women and Health Sciences". We did some communications through the University's Facebook pages and mailing lists.  While we had regular attendance from veteran Wikipedians and from university librarians, we had very little attendance from current students on campus who we had hoped would attend.

I heard from a female undergraduate that there was buzz and interest on campus in what we were doing, but few people took the next step of coming to one of our events.

Another comment I heard at Wikiconference USA is that university editathons are most successful if there's a current undergraduate on campus who is interested and recruits their friends. In the absence of that, the university editathon model tends to have mediocre outcomes.

Any suggestions about how to increase attendance if we decide to try this again in the future?

Thanks,
Pine


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