To clarify:
1) The safest thing that allows to build incrementally for now is 'Ive read this > Remove it' which is a really a simple 'Go Away'
2 ) In addition to this we could support a 'Clear All Read' from the flyout so a user doesn't have to dismiss one at a time.
This still leaves us with the problem of cross linking notification which may be large in volume > we could make that an 'Opt In'
The reason I think turning off categories in the flyout is problematic is:
- Dismissing entire categories needs more fine tuning. Users will want to unfollow specific things > Articles > Discussions etc.
- Switching off categories also prevents us from incremental fine tune controls in the short term.
- Other than cross links, so far we dont have enough evidence that users will want to switch entire categories off. We need more time and back end support to figure that out.
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Vibha Bamba
<vbamba@wikimedia.org> wrote:
I propose:
1) The safest thing that allows to build incrementally for now is 'Ive read this > Remove it'
2 ) In addition to this we could support a clear all new from the flyout so a user doesn't have to dismiss one at a time.
This still leaves us with the problem of cross linking notification which may be large in volume > we could make that an 'opt in'
Dismissing entire categories needs more fine tuning.
Other than cross links, so far we dont have enough evidence that users will want to switch entire categories off.
Users will want to unfollow specific things > Articles > Discussions etc.
We need more time and back end support to figure that out.
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Isarra Yos
<zhorishna@gmail.com> wrote:
But having the option there at all, if its to be removed later for simplicity, could even cause problems - how quickly would users figure out that they dont want a kind of message? On the first one, it probably wont seem worth dismissing all of the type - might be interesting to get more. But once they get twenty in the next day, then it would probably sink in that okay, this is really annoying. But where did the option go? Wasnt there an option?
If anything it might lead them away from their preferences because their preferences are not where they saw the option initially.
On 27/03/2013 13:11, Matthew Flaschen wrote:
On 03/27/2013 03:09 PM, Isarra Yos wrote:
Perhaps Im misunderstanding something, but if someone is trying to
dismiss several, they wont want a dialog showing up every time, but at
the same time even if they dont want to disable all of the type the
first time that doesnt mean they wont want to do that later. The option,
if its going to be there, needs to be there somewhat consistently.
You can still disable the notification category in Special:Preferences .
It may be worthwhile to keep the main Echo interface (not preferences)
simpler if they choose not to disable the category the first time.
Matt Flaschen
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