On Saturday, April 13, 2013, Matthew Flaschen wrote:
On 04/12/2013 06:43 PM, S Page wrote:
> Great stuff, +1 to everything everyone else said.
>
> Guided tours! I think a Guided tour for user sandbox, and a Guided
> tour for editing your user page would really help. They would feel
> related, reinforcing the idea "It's all editing pages, your new skills
> apply everywhere."
I agree. That's really key, so they understand which of their skills
are transferable. The user page one may be kind of wiki-specific (due
to stuff like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Userboxes).
But I think we could do a general sandbox one
(https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47200).
The real problem with the sandbox is that it gives no direction whatsoever about how to learn markup. The tour that would likely be of most use on the Sandbox would likely be not substantially different than a general "first edit" tour. I'd really like us to someday have a Sandbox with a REPL-like instructor for progressively harder markup, though VisualEditor perhaps makes this less of a priority.
> When the happy day comes where we have a bunch of Guided tours
> available (these editing tours plus watchlist plus whatever), how does
> a user keep track of the tours she's taken, or go back to them?
> Notifications can help, and maybe Getting Started could morph to have
> alternative tasks "Try editing your user page", "You can play in your
> sandbox", "Check out the Community Portal" that appear in place of [No
> thanks, return to ] on subsequent visits. The long-term answer is
> likely to be a user dashboard.
Possibly. There could certainly be tour links on various
documentation pages, but it might make sense to link them from special
pages like GettingStarted/Dashboard too.
Matt Flaschen
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