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From: "Derk-Jan Hartman" <d.j.hartman+wmf_ml@gmail.com>
Date: 2 Sep 2014 14:46
Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Is simplicity is the key to success of Echo and Watchlist?
To: "Wikimedia developers" <wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
Cc:

On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Marc A. Pelletier <marc@uberbox.org> wrote:
> On 09/02/2014 07:47 AM, Derk-Jan Hartman wrote:
>> When I watch a talk page, that doesn't mean I want to be NOTIFIED of
>> everything on every page.
>
> Wouldn't simply turning off flow notifications do?  Or, perhaps more
> flexibly, just making the setting more granular?

> I know /I/'d like to be notified of direct replies and pings without
> having a notification for every update to a thread -- that does seem
> more suited for a passive watch list.

I want Flow notifications if someone replies to me, or mentions me in
a talk post. Or even for everything if that Flow board would happen to
be my own talk page for instance. BUT, that is separate from watching
a page.

Normally, when watching a page, I would not want notifications on
every page that I visit, for every reply to every post, new post or
retitled post. I want to see what the last major changes were. Mostly,
new topics, and the last change to a new topic.

Currently, I feel like Echo is forcing me to consume Flow discussion,
where rather, I only want to be 'subscribed' to them and then consume
the subscription at the moment that I feel comfortable doing that. It
is like it is mixing my mailbox with my newspaper...


DJ

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