I think you've interpreted my use of the term as disparagement, regardless of whether i intended it that way. When I've used it in the context of VisualEditor discussions, what I'm saying is that VE is not for people who've made tens of thousands of edits. That's self-evident. I don't think it's disparaging to say a certain feature is not designed for a certain type of user, and that the opinion of experienced editors is not equivalent to actually asking new contributors what they want from VE. A more frank way of putting it is that just because you've made 50,000 edits and have opinion, it does not make that opinion relevant to every situation. That's just the truth.