I agree with Oliver. I think until we have a nicer way of presenting newsletters onwiki and letting new users easily comment (the current commenting setup on The Signpost is, imho, even more confusing than a regular talk page), it doesn't make a lot of sense to send new users this notification. It may end up hurting more than helping.

On Sep 14, 2013, at 1:02 AM, Oliver Keyes <okeyes@wikimedia.org> wrote:

To some degree, but Echo is not set up for long messages. I can see a Flow+Echo newsletter working something like "create a newsletter thread on [project] talkpage, tag all newsletter recipients, it'll show in their boards and also on the talkpage for people who drop in, and they'd be notified of it via Echo".

Echo is totally (potentially) good for things like "hey! there's [[a thread you should participate in]]", or will be once other features are built and SUL finalisation is complete - but they've not be, it's not, and a newsletter is a very different beastie.


On 13 September 2013 19:08, Quiddity <pandiculation@gmail.com> wrote:
On 13-09-12 10:58 PM, ENWP Pine wrote:
Hi Maryana, for this request is there any need to wait for Flow? I think
Echo alone could be made to do the job, the only issue is making sure
the system is forward compatible with Flow. I would like to see this get
implemented sooner rather than later. I think it would be an important
qualitative improvement for editor engagement and possibly help with
editor population statistics.

Pine


Putting newsletters into Echo, might be better than putting them into Flow, because otherwise: When I'm talkpagestalking dozens of users, all the duplicate copies of newsletters that they subscribe to, would show up in (or have to be filtered out of) their board feeds.



I made a list of newsletters at
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Quiddity/sandbox&oldid=572833236
I guess I'll integrate them into
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:News
which (afaik) is where they're meant to be listed.
But not tonight.

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