Strainu,
I can't recall what decisions were made about showing full IPv6 addresses, but I
believe
IPv6 can be much more revealing than IPv4, so any thanks or warning messages will be more
targeted if we show full IPv6 addresses and the host networks don't take privacy
measures.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipv6#Privacy
I recall hearing some discussion about privacy as well as about the effectiveness of
checkuser
tools concerning IPv6. I don't remember how that discussion ended, but if you can find
it you
might find information relevant to thanking anonymous users.
FWIW I agree with Richard that if we're going to apply warning templates to IPs then
we should
also be able to thank them, and I'm glad someone is looking at this issue. Anything
that helps
editor acquisition in a cost-effective and privacy-aware way is likely to have my
enthusiastic
support. (:
Pine
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Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 01:47:03 +0100
From: Richard Nevell <richard.nevell(a)wikimedia.org.uk>
To: Editor Engagement <ee(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Cc: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>rg>, Danny Horn
<dhorn(a)wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [EE] [Wikitech-l] That you to anonymous users
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Considering people deliver warnings via Huggle etc to IP editors, perhaps
allowing a thanks to be sent wouldn't be such a bad idea.
I realise it's purely anecdotal, but if it was available I reckon I'd use
'thanks' for anonymous users making changes as often as logged in editors.
On 21 May 2014 23:35, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:
If only I was a developer of any sort ;-)
On 21 May 2014 21:56, Fabrice Florin <fflorin(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
Hi David,
I am delighted that you are interested in extending the Thanks feature we
released last year, so it can be used to thank more users.
I am no longer working on this project, but am not aware of any changes
that would make it easier to thank anonymous users: IP addresses are still
as unreliable now as they were a year ago.
But I have Cc:d Danny Horn, the new product manager for core features
like Flow and Notifications, so he can chime in from his viewpoint.
Personally, I would love to see the Thanks feature be used even more than
it is today, as it seems like such a civilized way to show appreciation to
each other :)
Cheers,
Fabrice
On May 20, 2014, at 7:56 AM, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 20 May 2014 15:35, Strainu <strainu10(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I've recently noticed the "Thank you" feature is only available for
signed-in users, while anons cannot receive "thank yous". The
anonymous users are often the ones that would need encouraging the
most, so it would make sense to me to have this feature available to
them too.
Are there significant technical problems against such a change?
I asked for this on the editor engagement list too. Fabrice said: [1]
"Sadly, we couldn't make this feature available for anonymous users,
as you have to be registered to receive notifications right now. This
is because IP addresses cannot be trusted to deliver notifications to
the users they were intended to. I don't expect we'll change that
anytime soon. We should all encourage anonymous user to register if
they want to enjoy the same benefits as other members."
Fabrice, is this still the case? Are there ways around this?
* I suppose session cookies for anons just to possibly thank them is a
bit excessive.
* Could limit "thanks" to a short time after the edit (limiting either
sending or receiving).
Any other ways we could implement this with minimal false-positives on
thanking people? If that's considered a problem :-)
- d.
[1]
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/ee/2013-July/000525.html
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