Hi there Gina,
I think this is going to be an insightful presentation for your audience!
I'm currently working on an introduction to 'Wikimedia in the Classroom'
featuring the projects we've been working on here in the UK. So similarly
to Michel, I would love to have access to what you end up producing!
All the best,
Hannah
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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2018 19:13:08 +0200
From: Michel Wesseling <michel(a)wikimedia.nl>
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Dear GIna,
Thanks for your message. I would be very interested to have access to your
presentation because I am preparing a similar one later this year.
If you have anything to share, please let me know, so maybe I can comment
and share my thinking about these topics with you.
Kind greetings and good luck in preparing the presentation.
Michel
2018-03-24 23:10 GMT+01:00 Gina Bennett <bennett.gina(a)gmail.com>om>:
hello Wikimedia education enthusiasts!
Next month I am giving a presentation to a group of my colleagues, who
are
Adult Basic /Literacy Educators in Canada. My
presentation is titled
"Wikipedia – the overlooked and misunderstood resource". The
presentation
is scheduled for 1.5 hours but since it's the
last presentation of the
day
nobody will mind if it's a bit shorter ;-)
Here are the main points I want to get across:
- there are several myths about the role of Wikipedia in academic
work &
I want to dispel these
- academically rigorous ways to use Wikipedia do exist & we'll talk
about these
- learning to navigate Wikipedia provides a "teachable moment" to
educate your students about academic integrity, a 'neutral point of
view',
and the reliability of information.
- Is knowledge just a collection of 'facts'? Or is knowledge something
negotiated? Let's discuss our own beliefs about how knowledge is
constructed, validated, shared, and "owned."
Here's my question: do any of you have presentations (e.g. Powerpoints,
Slideshare etc.) related to these topics that you'd be willing to share
with me? Or just any ideas, suggestions, or comments that could work in
my
presentation?
My apologies if this is an inappropriate forum for such a request.
Gina Bennett; Faculty
University of the Fraser Valley
Hope, BC, Canada
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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2018 13:03:55 -0500
From: Jackie <jackie.koerner(a)gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] request for presentations,
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Hi Gina,
So glad to know you are going to present. Sometimes getting Wikipedia on
the roster can be a challenge. I am excited to learn about how it goes. It
seems like you have a great foundation for your presentation and the topics
you're going to cover.
I would even suggest starting on the ground level with Wikipedia. Your
audience will be a mix of learning styles, and understanding of Wikipedia
amongst attendees will vary for sure. Maybe include a little intro about
Wikipedia with some screenshots. Maybe ask about myths people have heard
and correct them. Also have them do an action item at the end - how are
they planning to use Wikipedia in their practice?
I generally present on Wikipedia, communication and bias, but I am a K-16
educator in the US with a focus on disability and inclusion. I'd gladly
listen to you practice your presentation if that would be helpful.
Best,
Jackie
On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 12:13 PM, Michel Wesseling <michel(a)wikimedia.nl>
wrote:
Dear GIna,
Thanks for your message. I would be very interested to have access to
your
> presentation because I am preparing a similar one later this year.
> If you have anything to share, please let me know, so maybe I can comment
> and share my thinking about these topics with you.
>
> Kind greetings and good luck in preparing the presentation.
> Michel
>
>
> 2018-03-24 23:10 GMT+01:00 Gina Bennett <bennett.gina(a)gmail.com>om>:
>
> > hello Wikimedia education enthusiasts!
> >
> > Next month I am giving a presentation to a group of my colleagues, who
> are
> > Adult Basic /Literacy Educators in Canada. My presentation is titled
> > "Wikipedia – the overlooked and misunderstood resource". The
> presentation
>
is scheduled for 1.5 hours but since
it's the last presentation of the
> day
> > nobody will mind if it's a bit shorter ;-)
> >
> > Here are the main points I want to get across:
> >
> > - there are several myths about the role of Wikipedia in academic
> work &
> > I want to dispel these
> > - academically rigorous ways to use Wikipedia do exist & we'll talk
> > about these
> > - learning to navigate Wikipedia provides a "teachable moment" to
> > educate your students about academic integrity, a 'neutral point of
> > view',
> > and the reliability of information.
> > - Is knowledge just a collection of 'facts'? Or is knowledge
something
negotiated? Let's discuss our own beliefs about how knowledge is
constructed, validated, shared, and "owned."
Here's my question: do any of you have presentations (e.g. Powerpoints,
Slideshare etc.) related to these topics that you'd be willing to share
with me? Or just any ideas, suggestions, or comments that could work in
my
presentation?
My apologies if this is an inappropriate forum for such a request.
Gina Bennett; Faculty
University of the Fraser Valley
Hope, BC, Canada
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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2018 13:39:31 -0700
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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2018 23:51:22 +0200
From: Gabriel Thullen <gabriel(a)thullen.com>
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Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] request for presentations,
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Hi Gina,
I can share with you how I do this in West Africa. The situation there is a
bit different, I was presenting Kiwix (
www.kiwix.org), an off-line
Wikipedia reader, to teachers who had very little experience with Internet
in general. They have modern cell phones, laptops but Internet connections
are not reliable and very expensive.
- I start by talking about what happens when the Google something. Most of
these teachers have had access to Internet when they go to cities. I then
show them (I usually have connection through my own phone) that Google
displays information from Wikipedia. So they have probably all used
Wikipedia, even those who do not know specifically about the encyclopedia.
- I then talk about Kiwix and off-line access to Wikipedia
- Each teacher, using Kiwix, looks up a subject that they know a lot about,
in their field of teaching. That way they usually find out that no matter
how much they know, or how much their printed teaching resources show,
there is a lot of information on Wikipedia that is new to them. Sometimes
it is just details, sometimes more important sections of knowledge.
When distributing Kiwix in West Africa, I have found out that we need to
spend half a day or so exploring the encyclopedia for teachers to be
convinced that it can be useful to them. In my experience in Geneva
(Switzerland) where there are absolutely no connectivity issues, it also
takes a few hours to show and convince my colleagues of the potential of
Wikipedia for their classrooms.
But you say you have about 1.5 hours. So I would suggest a few ideas:
- Your colleagues probably all know about Wikipedia, but maybe a bit
superficially. I would go over with them how it works: internal links,
external links, related articles, portals, categories, discussion pages,
etc.
- Are some of the adult students foreign language speakers? You could also
show the inter wiki links, and explain that the English Wikipedia has the
most articles, those in other languages are not just translations but have
been written by contributors who may not even speak English!
- Challenge the audience to come up with some information that is not
correct on Wikipedia. I usually do this with my colleagues, and they have
yet to come up with a major error in Wikipedia. I do not count spelling
mistakes...
- I also talk about the way articles a reviewed before publication in
peer-reviewed journals, and compare that to the way articles are written
and improved anonymously on Wikipedia. When an paper is submitted to a
peer-reviewed journal, the reviewers do not know who has written the paper.
They can only judge the paper on it's own merits. Wikipedia is the same:
there is no authority that has signed the article, you have to judge the
article by checking the references... That comparison usually goes well
with university audiences.
I am very interested in how your presentations goes. Please keep us
informed.
Best regards
Gabriel
On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 8:03 PM, Jackie <jackie.koerner(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Gina,
So glad to know you are going to present. Sometimes getting Wikipedia on
the roster can be a challenge. I am excited to learn about how it goes.
It
seems like you have a great foundation for your
presentation and the
topics
you're going to cover.
I would even suggest starting on the ground level with Wikipedia. Your
audience will be a mix of learning styles, and understanding of Wikipedia
amongst attendees will vary for sure. Maybe include a little intro about
Wikipedia with some screenshots. Maybe ask about myths people have heard
and correct them. Also have them do an action item at the end - how are
they planning to use Wikipedia in their practice?
I generally present on Wikipedia, communication and bias, but I am a K-16
educator in the US with a focus on disability and inclusion. I'd gladly
listen to you practice your presentation if that would be helpful.
Best,
Jackie
On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 12:13 PM, Michel Wesseling <michel(a)wikimedia.nl>
wrote:
Dear GIna,
Thanks for your message. I would be very interested to have access to
your
> presentation because I am preparing a similar one later this year.
> If you have anything to share, please let me know, so maybe I can
comment
> and share my thinking about these topics
with you.
>
> Kind greetings and good luck in preparing the presentation.
> Michel
>
>
> 2018-03-24 23:10 GMT+01:00 Gina Bennett <bennett.gina(a)gmail.com>om>:
>
> > hello Wikimedia education enthusiasts!
> >
> > Next month I am giving a presentation to a group of my colleagues,
who
> are
> > Adult Basic /Literacy Educators in Canada. My presentation is titled
> > "Wikipedia – the overlooked and misunderstood resource". The
> presentation
> > is scheduled for 1.5 hours but since it's the last presentation of
the
> day
> > nobody will mind if it's a bit shorter ;-)
> >
> > Here are the main points I want to get across:
> >
> > - there are several myths about the role of Wikipedia in academic
> work &
> > I want to dispel these
> > - academically rigorous ways to use Wikipedia do exist & we'll
talk
> > about these
> > - learning to navigate Wikipedia provides a "teachable moment" to
> > educate your students about academic integrity, a 'neutral point
of
>
view',
> and the reliability of information.
> - Is knowledge just a collection of 'facts'? Or is knowledge
something
> > negotiated? Let's discuss our own beliefs about how knowledge is
> > constructed, validated, shared, and "owned."
> >
> > Here's my question: do any of you have presentations (e.g.
Powerpoints,
> > Slideshare etc.) related to these
topics that you'd be willing to
share
> > with me? Or just any ideas,
suggestions, or comments that could work
in
my
presentation?
My apologies if this is an inappropriate forum for such a request.
Gina Bennett; Faculty
University of the Fraser Valley
Hope, BC, Canada
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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 10:20:25 +0200
From: Elly Koepf <elly.koepf(a)wikimedia.de>
To: Wikimedia Education <education(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] request for presentations,
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Hi Gina,
Hi everybody,
this is a very nice idea to share presentations and methods behind it.
Thank you for asking!
First: I really like the title.
I'll go a bit with Jackie: I would also have a short info about what
Wikipedia is. But I mean really short.
As far as I see, everybody knows Wikipedia, but most don't know that it is
written by (nearly) all of us and that it is free to share and to use.
so I like to point the first thing out. Also it is nice to give some
example of who writes it, and that tere is a really community behind.
What my audiences always love is the citation-button ;)
This could be interesting for you aswell.
Also the difference between citation and wrong licenscing is interesting
for educators I found out.
Maybe that hepls?
Good luck.
Best, Elly
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2018-03-25 23:51 GMT+02:00 Gabriel Thullen <gabriel(a)thullen.com>om>:
Hi Gina,
I can share with you how I do this in West Africa. The situation there
is a
bit different, I was presenting Kiwix
(
www.kiwix.org), an off-line
Wikipedia reader, to teachers who had very little experience with
Internet
in general. They have modern cell phones, laptops
but Internet
connections
are not reliable and very expensive.
- I start by talking about what happens when the Google something. Most
of
these teachers have had access to Internet when
they go to cities. I then
show them (I usually have connection through my own phone) that Google
displays information from Wikipedia. So they have probably all used
Wikipedia, even those who do not know specifically about the
encyclopedia.
- I then talk about Kiwix and off-line access to
Wikipedia
- Each teacher, using Kiwix, looks up a subject that they know a lot
about,
in their field of teaching. That way they usually
find out that no matter
how much they know, or how much their printed teaching resources show,
there is a lot of information on Wikipedia that is new to them. Sometimes
it is just details, sometimes more important sections of knowledge.
When distributing Kiwix in West Africa, I have found out that we need to
spend half a day or so exploring the encyclopedia for teachers to be
convinced that it can be useful to them. In my experience in Geneva
(Switzerland) where there are absolutely no connectivity issues, it also
takes a few hours to show and convince my colleagues of the potential of
Wikipedia for their classrooms.
But you say you have about 1.5 hours. So I would suggest a few ideas:
- Your colleagues probably all know about Wikipedia, but maybe a bit
superficially. I would go over with them how it works: internal links,
external links, related articles, portals, categories, discussion pages,
etc.
- Are some of the adult students foreign language speakers? You could
also
show the inter wiki links, and explain that the
English Wikipedia has the
most articles, those in other languages are not just translations but
have
been written by contributors who may not even
speak English!
- Challenge the audience to come up with some information that is not
correct on Wikipedia. I usually do this with my colleagues, and they have
yet to come up with a major error in Wikipedia. I do not count spelling
mistakes...
- I also talk about the way articles a reviewed before publication in
peer-reviewed journals, and compare that to the way articles are written
and improved anonymously on Wikipedia. When an paper is submitted to a
peer-reviewed journal, the reviewers do not know who has written the
paper.
They can only judge the paper on it's own
merits. Wikipedia is the same:
there is no authority that has signed the article, you have to judge the
article by checking the references... That comparison usually goes well
with university audiences.
I am very interested in how your presentations goes. Please keep us
informed.
Best regards
Gabriel
On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 8:03 PM, Jackie <jackie.koerner(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi Gina,
>
> So glad to know you are going to present. Sometimes getting Wikipedia
on
> > the roster can be a challenge. I am excited to learn about how it goes.
> It
>
seems like you have a great foundation for
your presentation and the
> topics
> > you're going to cover.
> >
> > I would even suggest starting on the ground level with Wikipedia. Your
> > audience will be a mix of learning styles, and understanding of
Wikipedia
> amongst attendees will vary for sure. Maybe
include a little intro
about
> Wikipedia with some screenshots. Maybe ask
about myths people have
heard
> and correct them. Also have them do an
action item at the end - how are
> they planning to use Wikipedia in their practice?
>
> I generally present on Wikipedia, communication and bias, but I am a
K-16
> educator in the US with a focus on
disability and inclusion. I'd gladly
> listen to you practice your presentation if that would be helpful.
>
> Best,
>
> Jackie
>
> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 12:13 PM, Michel Wesseling <
michel(a)wikimedia.nl>
wrote:
Dear GIna,
Thanks for your message. I would be very interested to have access to
your
> presentation because I am preparing a similar one later this year.
> If you have anything to share, please let me know, so maybe I can
comment
> and share my thinking about these topics
with you.
>
> Kind greetings and good luck in preparing the presentation.
> Michel
>
>
> 2018-03-24 23:10 GMT+01:00 Gina Bennett <bennett.gina(a)gmail.com>om>:
>
> > hello Wikimedia education enthusiasts!
> >
> > Next month I am giving a presentation to a group of my colleagues,
who
> > are
> > > Adult Basic /Literacy Educators in Canada. My presentation is
titled
> >
"Wikipedia – the overlooked and misunderstood resource". The
> presentation
> > is scheduled for 1.5 hours but since it's the last presentation of
the
> > day
> > > nobody will mind if it's a bit shorter ;-)
> > >
> > > Here are the main points I want to get across:
> > >
> > > - there are several myths about the role of Wikipedia in
academic
> work
&
> > I want to dispel these
> > - academically rigorous ways to use Wikipedia do exist & we'll
talk
> > > about these
> > > - learning to navigate Wikipedia provides a "teachable
moment"
to
> > > > educate your students about academic integrity, a 'neutral
point
> of
> > > > view',
> > > > and the reliability of information.
> > > > - Is knowledge just a collection of 'facts'? Or is
knowledge
> > something
> > > > negotiated? Let's discuss our own beliefs about how knowledge
is
> > > > constructed, validated, shared, and "owned."
> > > >
> > > > Here's my question: do any of you have presentations (e.g.
> Powerpoints,
>
> > Slideshare etc.) related to these
topics that you'd be willing to
> share
> > > > with me? Or just any ideas, suggestions, or comments that could
work
in
my
> presentation?
>
> My apologies if this is an inappropriate forum for such a request.
>
> Gina Bennett; Faculty
> University of the Fraser Valley
> Hope, BC, Canada
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