Dear all, I'm so curious to know more about what everybody does within their education programmes around the world, especially after hearing about what Jan Ainali at Wikimedia Sverige has told me about the education day in Milan. So, I thought about how we best may share this, and this may definitely not be the absolutely best idea but I'll just send it out to you to see what you might think. So, I've put the people together that I know work with education and in or in close collaboration with Wikimedia in one or another way, in groups of three. You may see this here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ?key=0Askq1OTvde8HdFdjMURpNXNyY1JXaDdPeTRFbS1tMUE&usp=sharing So my first idea is to simply have a hangout in these groups where we share ideas about our various education programmes. It would be great to hear something about: * Structure of the programme * Current activities * Successes * Mistakes (or rather, things to learn from) Please do add any aspects you may find relevant for a talk like this. I would suggest that these conversations are to take place in May if that may be possible, and that we briefly summarise what we have learned during these talks so we can all take part of everybody'sconversations. The reason I only put three per groups is to make it easier to find a time that works for everyone, and also to make time for dialogue which is may be better with fewer people. Please do let me know what you think about this, and if someone is forgotten, please do add yourself to the list, we may be four in groups (and it is four in a group already). And do you generally find this to be a good idea? My hope is that this will have us learn from each other, and to feel more connected with our various educational efforts and ideas. I wish you all a great weekend! *Be Bold! Sophie Österberg 0733-832670 sophie.osterberg(a)wikimedia.se* *Every single contribution to Wikipedia is a gift of free knowledge to humanity. *

(although it is possible to use it); someone (probably LiAnna) said in Milano that the final version should be available in August 2013.

I'm happy to answer what I can about the extension. You can see the translation status for it here: http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:MessageGroupStats&langua… (If your language isn't fully translated, you can translated it at translatewiki.) The extension has some fundamental technical shortcomings related to the way MediaWiki handles the content of course pages, and we're recommending that other wikis not start using it until after those get fixed. For those interested in the details, here is the tracking bug for that set of problems: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43975 . All the "Depends on" bugs are the issues that we're going to fix within the next few months. The look of the extension will also be upgraded in the next few months. You can see a rough partial roadmap for what we plan to work on here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Education_Program/Roadmap (If you have ideas for it, please talk with me, post to this mailing list, or add things to the ideas list at the bottom of the roadmap.) Even though we're suggesting the extension not be used for more education programs until around August, you can--and probably should--start the process soon if you think you'll want it on your home wikis. The basic requirement before it can be deployed is to demonstrate consensus on your wiki that it is wanted. I did that on English Wikipedia with this Request for Comment: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Education_Progr… don't need to have an RfC as complicated as that one; a simple "yes/no" discussion would suffice if you want the default configuration.) If you begin this process, please let me or LiAnna know (or better yet, post to this list) so we can keep an eye on it and document how it goes so that others can learn from it. If you want to play around with the extension, you can do so on test2.wikimedia.org: http://test2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:CoursesEmail me with your username if you would like any of the user rights on test2 so that you can create course pages, etc. This page documents how we're using it on English Wikipedia, including the "course page wizard" template I built to make it easier to create decent course pages: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Course_pages(The "course page wizard" is sort of a hack; later on, I hope to build something more user-friendly into the extension itself.) Cheers, Sage On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 6:12 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) < nemowiki(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: _______________________________________________ Education mailing list Education(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education

This is a very good idea! I see I've been added to group 10 but not sure what happens next. -- Dr Toni Sant - Education Organiser, Wikimedia UK toni.sant(a)wikimedia.org.uk +44 (0)7885 980 536 -- Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* _______________________________________________ Education mailing list Education(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education

Sure! I'm out and about in Stockholm at the moment but will be in the office in a few hours and can start a contact list then, or please someone start straight away if you have time atm. /Sophie (skickat ifrån en alldeles fantastisk Android)

I'm happy to answer what I can about the extension. You can see the translation status for it here: http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:MessageGroupStats&langua… (If your language isn't fully translated, you can translated it at translatewiki.) The extension has some fundamental technical shortcomings related to the way MediaWiki handles the content of course pages, and we're recommending that other wikis not start using it until after those get fixed. For those interested in the details, here is the tracking bug for that set of problems: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43975 . All the "Depends on" bugs are the issues that we're going to fix within the next few months. The look of the extension will also be upgraded in the next few months. You can see a rough partial roadmap for what we plan to work on here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Education_Program/Roadmap (If you have ideas for it, please talk with me, post to this mailing list, or add things to the ideas list at the bottom of the roadmap.) Even though we're suggesting the extension not be used for more education programs until around August, you can--and probably should--start the process soon if you think you'll want it on your home wikis. The basic requirement before it can be deployed is to demonstrate consensus on your wiki that it is wanted. I did that on English Wikipedia with this Request for Comment: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Education_Progr… (You don't need to have an RfC as complicated as that one; a simple "yes/no" discussion would suffice if you want the default configuration.) If you begin this process, please let me or LiAnna know (or better yet, post to this list) so we can keep an eye on it and document how it goes so that others can learn from it. If you want to play around with the extension, you can do so on test2.wikimedia.org <http://test2.wikimedia.org>: http://test2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Courses Email me with your username if you would like any of the user rights on test2 so that you can create course pages, etc. This page documents how we're using it on English Wikipedia, including the "course page wizard" template I built to make it easier to create decent course pages: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Course_pages (The "course page wizard" is sort of a hack; later on, I hope to build something more user-friendly into the extension itself.) Cheers, Sage On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 6:12 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) &lt;nemowiki(a)gmail.com <mailto:nemowiki@gmail.com>> wrote: Vojtěch Dostál, 27/04/2013 11:44: As far as I know, the MediaWiki Extension is still under construction (although it is possible to use it); someone (probably LiAnna) said in Milano that the final version should be available in August 2013. It's currently not internationalisable but they're working on it (I've not seen a plan yet though). Nemo _______________________________________________ Education mailing list Education(a)lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Education@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education _______________________________________________ Education mailing list Education(a)lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Education@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education

(although it is possible to use it); someone (probably LiAnna) said in Milano that the final version should be available in August 2013.