Thanks, James. Better than nothing. Although since I and others made a good effort to take notes, it is a pity if we lost it.

I don't who to ask to solve this pad server problem. Unfortunatly when I tried to save on meta, the Internet at the conference didn't allow it. I was going to use the hostel Internet, which luckly is better than the hotel, but I couldn't access the pad.


On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 6:42 PM, James Salsman <jsalsman@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 2:58 AM, Everton Zanella Alvarenga
<tom@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> Is Wikimedia pad server down? Yesterday I tried to access and it didn't
> load. I was going to save on the wiki. I tried to do at the conference, but
> my Internet access was not allowing me to edit wikis.
>
> Have someone saved it?

My last version is below.

> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Sophie Österberg
> <sophie.osterberg@wikimedia.se> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> /Sophie
>>
>> (skickat ifrån en alldeles fantastisk Android)
>>
>> Den 18 apr 2013 09:13 skrev "Everton Zanella Alvarenga"
>> <tom@wikimedia.org>:
>>>
>>> http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/eduleadersworkshop
...

Education Program Leaders Worskhop, April 2013
Around 35 participants.

Agenda: http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Education_Program/Education_Program_Leaders_Workshop_2013#Agenda

* Rod Dunican Global Education Program Director
**Main topics: Wikipedia and Education
* LiAnna Davis Global Education Program Communications Manager

9:15-10:30 Introductions
5 minutes to introduce yourself.

# Gabriel Thullen, Wikimedia CH. Professor in junior highschool.
Students use Wikipedia and I teach them how to use it, how it works,
how Wikipedia is a reference. Students can contribute themselves to
understand how it works. Teacher training and explaing how teachers
can use Wikipedia. WMF wants to know the metrics of what we do; I
don't know. One year it can be 120 students; but students forget their
username, password, you have difficulties to monitor the results.
# Charles Andrès. Wikimedia CH, chair. Professor in university
(Biology, University of Neuchâtel); teachining Wikipedia to students,
how to use wikipedia but also how to edit wikipedia as a new suport
for school work. The chapter Wikimedia CH is supporting Wikimini. We
receive a lot of requests from schools and universities and we are
planning to recruit a person to take care of it.
# Fernanda Campagnucci. Wikimedia Brazil / Ação Educativa.
Journalist, coordinator of the Observatory on Education - a program
held by the NGO Ação Educativa - and researcher in education at the
University of Sao Paulo. We are discussing with WMF to become a local
partner; as an office and as a partner to develop joint projects. We
have been working as an association for 20 years (advocacy, public
policies, literacy, collaborations with schools/teachers/students). We
identify with the Wikimedia mouvment with which we share principals.
# Eva Lepik. Wikimedia Estonia. We just started our programme. We are
discussing with the ministry, to see how to integrate Wikipedia in the
Estonian education policies.
# Daniel Mietchen (for Wiki Project Med). We are all involved in
education: lectures in universities, collaborations with journals
(scientific journals), collaborations with professional societes
related to medicine.
# Iolanda Pensa, Wikimedia Italy/Wikimedia CH. Developing projects
with Creative Commons and Wikipedia. Wikipedia Primary School.
# Mathias Damour, Wikimedia France. I am one of the promoter of
Vikidia, http://vikidia.org an encyclopedia for 8-15 years old kids
(at the moment French, Italian and Spanish). Articles are written for
a specific target. I proposed on meta ([[m:Wikikids]]) that the
project is recognised among the Wikimedia projects. Some people say
that Wikipedia is too difficult for children; so vikidia can be a good
tool for younger readers. Children provide their feedback on the
vikidia.
# Jeromy Yu Chan, Hong Kong. Very wide use of Wikipedia but there is
the need to have more contributors, to better understand how Wikipedia
works. References and footnotes are an effective way to involve
students. Now all the volunteers in Hong Kong are trapped in the
Wikimania organisation. Potential collaborations: Government subsidide
programme; support for digital disadvantage students; ICT teacher
association in the directly subsidied schools (private scate schools
with support of the government).
# Claudia Garad, Wikimedia Austria. Managing director at Wikimedia
Austria. Collaboration with univiersities, presentations in schools.
We don't have a strucutred programme at the moment and we would like
to develop it.
# SusikMkr, Wikimedia Armenia. People are busy all time. Collaboration
with two universities. Students are contributing but it is dififcult
to include Wikipedia in the teaching process. This is what we want to
do. Activites in highschool; with training every month. Lectures in
different cities but it is difficult to reach them and to. Activities
of the volunteers are possible on saturday and sunday but this is
obviously a problem in collaborating with univerisities.
# Filipe, Wikimedia Serbia. Slide with years and institutions
(faculties of university and highschools); growing collaborations. We
started in 2006 with a pioneer programme developed directly by
volunteers. We develop our activites with presentations, ICT-wiki
skills development and practicals (exercises on articles). Articles
are related to school subjects. We needed to create a policy with the
community and we created an academia board (with 4 members). we
implemented a collaboration with primary school, to train teachers.
References/copyright are the most difficult part of an articles. We
need to adapt our training to the differnet target (highschool
students, university students, teachers...).
# Mile, Wikimedia Serbia. Please refer above.
# Mohammed Alghbban, Saudi Arabia. Our focus is on translations. From
English to Arabic and from Arabi to English. We work in university:
workshops for students (publishing, editing), always with a focus on
translations.
# Sami Bin Slimah, Saudi Arabia. Chair of the English department.
# Thomaz D., Wikimedia Poland. They had a lot of programs on how to
edit Wikipedia. Programme in primary, secondary school (focus on
editing articles about local geography and issus; some effective and
some )and university.
# X, Wikipedia Poland. We have a programme for highschool; the
highschools actually came to us. We have documentation and we have
several projects. We don't have a specific educational programme.
# Chris. Hong Kong. He is working for Wikimania. Please refer to the
presentation of Jeromy Yu Chan, Hong Kong.
# Vojtěch Dostál, Wikimedia Czech republic. Student of biology. Many
articles have been written with volunteer work with the support of
ambassadors (teachers pairs). We ask teachers or we support teachers
who want to contribute. And we encourage students to contribute (and
not being afraid of contributing). We are connected with social media
(Facebook, Twitter) and helping students online.
# Everton Zanella Alvarenga (Tom), WMF (consultant).
http://educacao.wikimedia.org. We started with activities in India and
I am working in the programmes in Brazil - wondered why India is not
here. Education projects should have mid to long terms goals, if you
try to make it quickly, you will likely fail. He believes sharing the
information and the experiences is really the way we can enhance the
educational programme as a whole. There is not only Wikipedia; other
projects can be targeted. In Brazil we are collaborating with about 15
university professors; we made a call in the second phase of the
pilot. In certain places is difficult to implement the programme only
with volunteer work. We are producing and translating resources and
online training (videos, trainslations, documentation in Portuguese)
so that the program can become sustainable. Encouraging translations
with a collaboration with a university focus on it based on the
success of Egypt. The Education Program is also going to try to
revitalise the WikiProject of Medicine in partner with the Ministry of
Heath.
# Antanana, Wikimedia Ukraine. There is a coordinator of the
educational programme. We implement workshops (coordinator is our
executive director); official collaboratons with universities (with
MOU memorandum of understanding - agreements). The official agreements
are useful because teachers feel they need to have a written
authorisation to assign Wikipedia articles to their students. Every
university has a wikiproject page on the Ukrainan Wikipedia and
templates associated to the university. In March 2013 a short-term
internship could be implemented on Wikipedia (Wikipedia as the exam).
Slide with metrix (universities, years, articles, media coverage).
# Cornelia Trefflich, Wikimedia DE. Slides. Different targets
(highschool, universities, also "generation 50+"). Activities with
collaborations, workshops, lectures, resources. The approach need to
change according to the different tagets. It is difficult to defnine
what does editor engagment mean. We mainly focus on Wikipedia rather
than other projects. We mainly have short-term initiatives which have
difficulty to produce long-term impact. Our goal is to increase
diversity (how to engage people, thematic grpups, collaborations with
less conventional institutions...)
# Tim Moritz, Wikimedia DE. A major issue is to work on the long-term
impact. How to support engament. Different approaches in different
languages. We need to concentrate also on what happens online after
the training.
# Dimce Grozdanoski/brest, President of Wikimedia Macedonia.
Collaborations with professors in university and individual faculties
like Faculty of Information science, Faculty of Philosophy, Philology
and Faculty of Economics from University in Skopje, Education Faculty
from University in Shtip, Faculty of IT from University in Bitola and
other. From the beggining of this year, we start some presentations of
wikipedia/wikimedia projects to teachers in highschools/secondary
schools and we have with very good feedback. We started wiki projects
in many highschools (groups of 15-20 students work on wikisessions and
they list and select articles to improuve and edit; often articles
related to local culture/geography).
# Kiril Simeonovski, WIkimedia Madedonia.
# Jan Ainali Wikimedia SE, CEO. As Estonia we are working to
collaborate with the ministry to include Wikipedia in school
programmes. Identiifying early adopters and support them. Starting an
Amabassadors programme. Have an online course for educators on
Wikiversity. Programme with imigrants to help the teachers in working
with them; The programme includes writing articles in their own
language about Swidish culture.
# Kalman Hajdu, Wikimedia Hungary. Education in Hungary is very
conservative. We had collaborations with professors but difficulties
in involving them. In secondary school we have occasional lectures.
# Nidal Yousef, Jordan. I work at university. We started a programme
in university. We collaborate wiht 15 highschools with the association
of teachers. We develop activities in collaboration with our
organisation related to Arabic language. We also created groups (5-10
students each group). We collaborate with a course related to ICT in
university to include how to write an article within the programme.
# Faris El-Gwely, Egypt. WMF consultant. Consultant for WMF. Programme
in Cairo. Now we are in 4 countries (Egpy, Soudi Arabia, Jordan,
Algeria) Our aim is to increase articles in Wikipedia in Arabic.
# Ad Huikeshoven, Wikimedia Netherlands. We are consdering if
Wikimedia NL should hire a person to coordinate the programme, what
should be his/her skills and what could be the objective of such a
program. We have a volunteer editor very active on Wikiversity asking
for support to grow the project. (Wikikids.nl exist for several years.
Wikikids is targeted for primary schools. The project runs on its
own.)
# Wikimedia Israel. University using Wikipedia for their assignments.
Training for teachers and now establishing a collaboration with the
ministry of education. Support to teachers and workshops with students
(in particular highschool).
# Brian/Biosthmors. Ambassador in the US educational programme.
Working on the Wiki med project.
# Ganesh Paudel. Nepal. We don't have a specific programme for
education but we have activities in universities.
# Toni Sant, Wikimedia UK. Joined as a part-time member of staff in
London 4 weeks ago so still fairly new to the job of Education
Organizer. Main focus is currently on a conference we're planning in
the UK (Oct 31-Nov 1), which will be the second EduWiki conference. We
also have other projects, of course, which you can see at
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education_projects (but some of this work
is in flux as we adjust to having a member of staff in the UK working
directly on Education). EduWiki 2013 details available at
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/EduWiki_Conference_2013
I'm also Director of Research at the University of Hull in Scarborough
(which is in the North of England). Students at this university have
been editing Wikipedia as one of their assessment exercises since
2010. So this experience is brought to the work I'm now doing for
WMUK.
# Leigh Thelmadatter, Monterrey Institute of Technology and Superior
Studies, Mexico City Campus  I have worked with Wikimedia in my
classes since 2007. This semester I work with medical English students
who are writing articles in English. The campus library has sponsored
two foto contests for students with results into Commons  Also
students do community service requirements with Wikipedia (undergrad
and International Baccalaureate CAS)
More info at http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education_Portal/Projects_and_Programs/ITESM-Campus_Ciudad_de_M%C3%A9xico
10:50-11:10
Break

11:20-12:30 Support each other?
How can we share the information? How can we support each other?
* Translations
* Videoconferencing facilities -- enabling us to support each other
across distances.
* Online trainning
* Resources for the education program world wide (share the code!)
* Writing skills development
* Critical thinking (evaluting articles)
* Research skills (references, footnotes, sources)
* Collaboration (online collaborations, offline collaborations); how
to work with students on distance (not only students in one place but
in multiple places at the same time)
* the focus of the WMF is on US and Canada; now it will be really
global (WMF will recuit staff).
* create a cooperative: to exchage ideas, documentations, programmes...
* Expectations are different: some people want to work with small
groups; others want to extend their programmes and work on
large-scale.


=== Support from the WMF ===
* 11h34 - LiAnna explanation:
** Shared set of resources (brochures focussed on Wikipedia as an
assiment and a teaching tool): she can share the InDesign code of
these resources or ship them to countries (in English) -
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education_Portal/Tips_and_Resources
*** https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Instructor_Basics_How_to_Use_Wikipedia_as_a_Teaching_Tool.pdf
(green)
*** https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Sample_Syllabus_for_Wikipedia_assignment.pdf
(blue)
** Hands-on support (meetings, communication, exchanges, intervews, blog posts)
** More close support to Egypt (Faris) and Brazil (Tom) because it is
a WMF program
** Mediawiki extensions for students (allows to trace the contribution
of students on Wikipedia in English)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Courses
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_Program:University_of_Western_Ontario/Writing_for_the_Web_(WI13)
** Translations; Mediawiki extension for translators.
** Courses list: MediaWiki extension for the education program:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Courses
** Online trainings (for students, instructurs and ambassadors). An
online training to guarantee scalability.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Training/For_students
(Sage Ross developer of many of those tools and online consultant)
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=== Questions/Challenges ===
1) How to decentralize the support?
1.a) @ LiAnna: if everybody in the Wikimedia movement begin to contact
her, will she have time to support everybody? How to decentralize this
kind of support?

2) How to have the courses extension (see here
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Courses>) on our local
Wikipedia?

3) How to improve the support from the WMF?
3.a) How to improve the support from other local groups involved in
the Wikimedia Education Program?
3.b) How to provide answers in a way that it is not a one-to-one
relationship with WMF?

4) How to form a network of people involved in this education program?

5) Education mailing list problems:
Does the ed listserve work? Ive signed up a couple of times and I
still receive nothing
Re: ed mailing list: Who are you? for me it works with 2 e-mails? Tom
 Im Thelmadatter I cant get this program to connect this color with my name
Re: Please, send an e-mail to the list owners
education-owner@lists.wikimedia.org telling your problem. I hope they
can quickly fix this.
Ive done that too.. Have a response saved but still nothing
Re: Well, I manage some mailings lists, but I don't know how to solve
in this particular case. I will try to speak to people here tho.
I appreciate that!

7) Time. How to find the time? How to make the volunteer time
efficient? How to be scalable as WMF team? the WMF will more or less
remain the same but it has to do more and more.

7) Knowing what the students are doing is different from getting
information on what the chapters are doing.

8) There are different perspectives involved. What students, chapters,
teachers, wikipedians, wikimedians, the WMF expect is different.
Dynamics of credibility, long-term impact, success of students,
success of programmes...
8.a) True, who in the program in SF is an educator by profession?
(Add your name) None, I believe, is the answer.
(Tom) For Brazil: I barely believe in most things most experts of
education says. ;D #kidding #OrNot I hope I am wrong tho.
(Fernanda) Hey, Tom! We're scientists just like you. :P

=== Solutions/Trials ===
* Re: 1) (Thelmadatter) I think we should take cues from the GLAM
program which is almost completely decentralized. We have an online
wiki education newsletter in the Education portal on outreach
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education_Portal/Newsletter

(LiAnna) It is not only necessary to provide translations but it is
necessary to localize resources. Sage Ross can be a supporter.

* New newsletter:
- To receive an email reminder of new online newsletter, please
contant me (Thelmadatter) at osamadre@hotmail.com

* (Thelmadatter) Need teacher workshops for teachers by teachers

* WMF team size:
- The team at WMF is small. Three people and 2 open positions. The
solutions need to take also into account the dimentions of the WMF
team and what they can do.

More simple solution is promote better communication among people
involved. Devolve initiative and "status" to people outside of San
Fran.


* Mentoring:
- Have a kind of mentoring for groups who wants to start a program and
wants learn from others who have already started something

* (Iolanda) Words. 1. Using the word "partner" helps the atmosphere
and the way things are done -- instead of "supporter".
(Toni) WMUK looks forward to potential partnerships with other
chapters on Education program developments.

2. Wikipedians, educators, wikimedians, students are not necessarly
separate categories. If they cross it is a success. It is acutally
what the programmes are meant for.
Re: (Tom) I agree. For this reason I believe a education program
should not involve only Wikipedia.


* (Shani) Sinergies among GLAMs and eduction can be very productive.
And there are a lot of overlappings.
Re: (Tom) I completly agree.

8.a)



12:30-14:00 Lunch

14:00-15:00 Success?

15:00-15:15 Break

15:00-16:30 More success?

16:30-17:00 Wrap up/next steps

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Everton Zanella Alvarenga (also Tom)
"A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable, but more useful than a life spent doing nothing."