Hello,
I allow myself to add (I am not quite neutral, as related to Klexikon) that
the children encyclopedias have an important advantage: you can reach
institutions and audiecnes you usually not reach with Wikipedia.
In general, I can imagine that this user group (as many „evangelists“)
often starts with Wikipedia as a topci, because WP simply is the most known
wiki, and occasionally regards other wikis as it fits. For example, I know
that some initiatives focus on Wiktionary because Wiktionary entries are
shorter and „easier“ to create than Wikipedia articles.
Kind regards,
Ziko
Mathias Damour <mathias.damour(a)gmx.fr> schrieb am Do. 9. Aug. 2018 um 23:02:
By the way you may also think about like-minded wikis,
however outside
Wikimedia, which are aimed for children and teenagers.
I mean Wikikids in Dutch, Vikidia in French, Spanish, Italian, English,
and Klexikon in German (the later being less oriented toward children
and pupils participation).
I think that these "Wikipedias for children" are especially relevant for
education projects when the Wikipedia version in your language is very
developed, which not only means few available subjects to work on but
also long and too high level articles for children and younger peoples,
which in turn implies a lack of a well-suited encyclopedic resource for
children.
I guess it is also relevant if you think that education does not only
aim at higher education students !
I noticed this tweet:
"Would be very cool if @Wikipedia had official support for different age
ranges. Such tremendous effort is expended to include different
languages / cultures / topics, but nearly all of it remains inaccessible
to the 25% of the world population under 14"
https://twitter.com/anthonygarvan/status/981584340986540032
We may elaborate why the Wikimedia movement missed to support and
develop a children-oriented encyclopedic wiki, and still elude this
idea. I may have some ideas on the topic, yet it is still a mystery to
me. However it does exist and is doing well!
Well, come and get involved in Vikidia in Spanish, English, Italian and
so on ! ;-)
https://www.vikidia.org/
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikikids
Le 09/08/2018 à 11:21, Shani Evenstein a écrit :
Yes, the brand is what guided the founding
members of the group when
choosing the name, especially thinking about global outreach; but we are
certainly looking at all Wikimedia projects. Wikidata is very much a
focus
- actually, I was the one to suggest and lead
the Wikidata & Education
session at WikidataCon and have been including WD in my academic courses
for a few years now, so I have a personal interest in what you're doing,
Daniel. ☺ In general, initiatives around any of the other sister projects
are very much of an interest. There are success stories / best practices
that I can think of about working with WikiQuote, WikiSource, WikiBooks
and
of course WikiCommons. We'd love to document
more examples we might not
be
aware of.
Shani.
On Thu, 9 Aug 2018 10:10 Vojtěch Dostál, <vojtech.dostal(a)wikimedia.cz>
wrote:
> I guess that's just a name, nothing more. Wikipedia is by far the best
> known brand - hence the name of the user group - but our activities will
> AFAIK support educators using all Wikimedia projects.
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> 2018-08-09 8:10 GMT+02:00 Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemowiki(a)gmail.com>om>:
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>> Daniel Mietchen, 09/08/2018 08:46:
>>
>>> I'm very interested in matters at the interface between Wikimedia and
>>> education but don't understand whether this user group - as the name
>>> and existing documentation would suggest - is limited specifically to
>>> Wikipedia(s) or what the role would be for other Wikimedia projects.
>>>
>> I agree, it's confusing and not inclusive. Wikimedia activities in
>> education need to be flexible: in many cases Wikipedia is just not a
viable
>> option. Wikisource, Wikiquote, Wikibooks,
Wikimedia Commons, Wikidata
etc.
have proven to be essential educational tools in
various cases.
Federico
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