(Adapting the subject to an adequate one)
Hi all,
this is a very important issue and we all involved in the global
efforts to involve universities to improve Wikipedia - and, if I may
add, raise awareness on the Wikimedia movement, which we could go
deep, but let's retrict ourselves to the apparently solely goal at the
moment.
Wikimania is far from an academic event. Fact. Only a few academics
would be interested in attending to it or, if they would be
interested, would have time for it. Fact.
The first time I've heard about Wikimania was during my masters
studies, in 2005. I was already somewhat involved with Wikipedia, but
even as a masters student, I would never think about going to what
I've read at that time what is this event about. Instead I would go to
a summer school (as I did in a previous year) or an academic
conference that would be regarded by funding agencies. This is the
view of a MS student, you can imagine a researcher who has to give
number of papers/conferences/books and so on to survive inside the
academic world (well, the well know publish or perish
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Publish_or_perish>)
Frank has asked me to see with the five professors in Brazil who
joined the Wikipedia Education Program if they would be interested in
a meeting in the mid of the semester to share their, his and
ambassadors experiences with the program. I've asked three of them
until now (one is Juliana who raised the subject we are discussing
here, who already gave the nice idea to transform the event in an
academic meeting) and my feeling is that they will attend when they
have time, which is not that much - waiting other professors answers
and reactions to Juliana's proposal.
I don't know very much about Wikipedia Academy
<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Academy> and I'd love to
hear more details about it and if it's aligned to the purpose of
bringing attention of the academic world to Wikimedia projects, not
only as a research field (indeed, a very interesting one, as Benkler
teach us, for instance), but maybe as a source of inspiration from
interesting peer production process that academia has a lot to learn -
I believe that in a ideal world, if most forms of knowledge was freely
shared, raw reserarch data, for instance [1], the processos of
building new knowledge would be much faster (this is far from
happening, if it will).
I belive that professors joining these global education efforts are
usually those commited to education. Those I've choose are.* I thnk
one way to bring more attention from academia would be to invest more
thoughts (I am not saying it was not invested) on how would
professors, key figures in this program, together. The program is
expanding now. How will professors, with such scarce time, share their
experiences and how would they benefit from it?
I believe those are a few and important challenges to make the program
expand inside academia.
Best,
Tom
*Besides most public universities in Brazil have education as one of
their pillars, research comes first. I've seen a lot of professors who
produce amazing educational resources, but they are treated in the
same way as those professors who simply copy and paste American or
European books on the blockboard, instead of using some of their time
to do what is written in the contract with the institution he or she
works.
[1]
http://pantonprinciples.org/
On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 11:51 PM, Bart <bart.humphries(a)gmail.com> wrote:
In other words, for academics to take it seriously
(ask for time off,
volunteer time to write a paper, spend money to travel out there, stay
at a hotel, eat, etc.), it has to be run like a "real" academic
conference. I could go present a topic and speak for an hour at my
local Rotary club (and I have), but it's not really going to mean much
professionally and I wouldn't be putting it on either my resume or
curriculum vitae. Presenting a topic in a somewhat competitive forum
where the speakers are vetted and the presentation topics have
generally been run through some basic fact checking to make sure
they're not complete bunkum would be something of a "feather in my
cap", something that I would definitely put down on at least my
curriculum vitae.
So, the question should be, is Wikimania a "real" academic conference,
or a fan convention (or both)? I'd argue that, in its current state,
Wikimania is basically a fan convention, designed as a big
meet-and-greet for Wikipedia editors, with some presentations given
that likely haven't been put up against any sort of test other than
"It's not Time Cube, right?" That's cool, I enjoy fun conventions,
but it's going to be difficult to attract "serious" academics to come
as presenters.
Bart User:Banaticus
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Everton Zanella Alvarenga (also Tom)
Wikimedia Brasil
Wikimedia Foundation