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From: john cummings <mrjohncummings@gmail.com>
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Cc: Leila Zia <leila@wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] Issues finding tools to measure
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Hi Anna

Thanks, if you have any suggestions for additional tools to provide for
contributors or any metrics you think I should use for reporting please do
add them to the list.

Cheers

John

On 2 October 2015 at 21:04, Anna Koval <akoval@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> @Pine, thanks for your reply to John and the tip to ask Leila (not Lila!).
> ;) It's much appreciated.
>
> @John, your metrics tools list [1] is helpful. I saw some tools there that
> were new(s) to me. BaGLAMa 2 [2], for example. Could that or something
> similar be used to collect pageviews stats en masse for categories of
> Commons files uploaded by students in WEPs? Here's one such category from
> the WEP Tec de Monterrey. [3] Manually mathing out the file totals to get a
> category total would be painful, imo. There must be an easier way. We have
> so many tools as a movement, though not all are well used or even well
> known. Thanks for asking this question on-list so that we all will benefit
> from the answer. Metrics and measurement matter. It's good that we're
> talking about how to do so -- smarter not harder.
>
> Anna
>
> [1]
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:John_Cummings/Planning_UNESCO_metrics
> [2] https://tools.wmflabs.org/glamtools/baglama2/index.html
> [3]
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Student_photos_taken_for_Experiencias_Retadoras_Spring_2015
>
> Anna Koval, M.Ed.
> Manager, Wikipedia Education Program
> Wikimedia Foundation
> +1.415.839.6885 x 6729
> Skype: annakoval.wiki
> akoval@wikimedia.org
> education.wikimedia.org
>
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>
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 11:23 AM, john cummings <mrjohncummings@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Pine
>>
>> Hi Leila
>>
>> Any help would be greatly appreciated, I seem to have got very stuck,
>> there are some fairly basic things I would like to measure and the tools to
>> do so either don't exist or I don't know about them.
>>
>> All the best
>>
>> John
>> On 2 Oct 2015 17:36, "Pine W" <wiki.pine@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi John,
>>>
>>> Those are some good suggestions for tools. I would like to suggest that
>>> you contact Leila (not Lila!) who I think has been doing some work with
>>> suggested articles for translation. She may have some ideas for you.
>>> Regarding your questions for multimedia, I would like to suggest that you
>>> email those questions to the Multimedia mailing list.
>>>
>>> Good luck,
>>> Pine
>>> On Oct 2, 2015 3:42 AM, "john cummings" <mrjohncummings@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi All
>>>>
>>>> This is my first time posing on this list, I'm sorry if it is perhaps a
>>>> little off topic. I'm currently Wikimedian in Residence at UNESCO and plan
>>>> to run an online collaboration, a little bit like a short term Wikiproject
>>>> with two main goals:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    - Help organise reuse of UNESCO content on Wikimedia projects
>>>>    (UNESCO has released content under an open license and will do more
>>>>    shortly).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    - Help improve content on Wikimedia of the subjects of UNESCO
>>>>    programmes e.g the World Heritage Sites.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have been planning ways that I can use tools to:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    - Organise work for contributors across all languages
>>>>    - Provide contributors feedback on their contributions (e.g page
>>>>    views for all contributions combined)
>>>>    - Measure success of the project.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've been doing this on wiki here
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:John_Cummings/Planning_UNESCO_metrics
>>>>
>>>> In short I'm finding it very hard to find the tools needed, I have
>>>> found less than a third of what I think would be helpful but found others
>>>> that may be tangentially useful which I've added in.
>>>>
>>>> Any help would be appreciate, please feel free to comment here, on the
>>>> talk page or just add tools to the fields
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> John
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