Hello, I have few question for discovery portal and API: - possible to be included in the 0.05% who tried the A/B test? - do you have or plan to have a feature for discovery *between*

suggestions connecting two topics. I ve been working on this. - Which is the difference in API:Search between: list=search and generator=search ? The first seems to be faster to me. - I need to fetch the pageIDs of the results, and have them already redirected and decorated with images and snipped/excerpt. With generator=search I could do it, I can't with list=search Could you help in grasping query parameters? #generator=search params = {'action':'query', 'generator':'search', 'gsrnamespace' : 0, 'gsrsearch' : keywords, 'gsrlimit' : 20 , 'prop' :

'pilimit' : 'max', 'exintro' : '', 'explaintext' : '', 'exsentences' :

'exlimit' : 'max', 'redirects' : '' } #list=search params = {'action':'query', 'list':'search', 'srsearch' : keywords, 'srlimit' : 20 , 'srprop' : 'size', 'indexpageids' : 1 } ?? I m trying with sand box with no success, only search results are hit,

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- I also found 0&formatversion=2' is another param used in search=list Has it a special meaning? _______________________________________________ discovery mailing list discovery(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/discovery

Hi! @ Oliver, about A/B test I refer to the email of 13 Jan 2016 by Deborah Tankersley [discovery] New A/B testing on Wikipedia Portal page however, yes I would like tobe included in A/B tests in general, not a particular one. I m mostrly interested in full text search, knowledge discovery and discovery of topics' context. @Luca Nemo https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Query#Generators https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Search Not much clear to me yet, sorry. I will rephrase my question: I would like to do a full-text search (FTS) query, have the pageids and decorators. I also would like to have results hit (I see them in API:Search, list=search); I would like to access the page_Ids of articles (see them in generators). I would like to understand if the backend between two is different, since I've read list=search use an ElasticSearch instance, and it seems to me it is faster and better FTS (not tried extensively, through). Also, list=search offers a snippet and may be less expensive for wiki server instead of quering an exerpt - is it the case? I pass: params = {'action':'query', 'generator':'search', 'gsrnamespace' : 0, 'gsrsearch' : keywords, 'gsrlimit' : 20 , 'prop' : 'pageimages|extracts', 'pilimit' : 'max', 'exintro' : '', 'explaintext' : '', 'exsentences' : 3, 'exlimit' : 'max', 'redirects' : '' } would like to do the same with list=search. Could you please show an example of FTS with list=search ? Not clear to me how coudl I pass a list to a generator, if it is the case. Thank you. On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Oliver Keyes <okeyes(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: > Which A/B test are you referring to? We have tried quite a few :). Or > do you just generally want to be included in the A/B tests? > > On 26 January 2016 at 03:44, Luigi Assom <itsawesome.yes(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have few question for discovery portal and API: > > > > - possible to be included in the 0.05% who tried the A/B test? > > > > - do you have or plan to have a feature for discovery *between* > topics? E.g. > > suggestions connecting two topics. > > I ve been working on this. > > > > - Which is the difference in API:Search between: > > list=search and generator=search ? > > The first seems to be faster to me. > > > > - I need to fetch the pageIDs of the results, and have them already > > redirected and decorated with images and snipped/excerpt. > > > > With generator=search I could do it, I can't with list=search > > Could you help in grasping query parameters? > > > > #generator=search > > params = {'action':'query', 'generator':'search', 'gsrnamespace' : 0, > > 'gsrsearch' : keywords, 'gsrlimit' : 20 , 'prop' : > 'pageimages|extracts', > > 'pilimit' : 'max', 'exintro' : '', 'explaintext' : '', 'exsentences' > : 3, > > 'exlimit' : 'max', 'redirects' : '' } > > > > #list=search > > params = {'action':'query', 'list':'search', 'srsearch' : keywords, > > 'srlimit' : 20 , 'srprop' : 'size', 'indexpageids' : 1 } ?? > > > > I m trying with sand box with no success, only search results are > hit, no > > matter of > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ApiSandbox#action=query&list=sear… > > > > > > - I also found 0&formatversion=2' is another param used in > search=list > > Has it a special meaning? > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > discovery mailing list > > discovery(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/discovery > > > > > > -- > Oliver Keyes > Count Logula > Wikimedia Foundation > > _______________________________________________ > discovery mailing list > discovery(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/discovery > _______________________________________________ discovery mailing list discovery(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/discovery

Hi Luigi, The A/B tests that we run are to specifically get a sampling of our audience that uses the portal page <http://www.wikipedia.org> and then log what their actions are on that page, in relation to what we happen to be testing. We don't want folks going to the test on purpose and skewing the random sampling. Hope that helps...! Cheers, Deb -- Deb Tankersley Product Manager, Discovery Wikimedia Foundation On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 10:35 AM, Oliver Keyes &lt;okeyes(a)wikimedia.org&gt; wrote: > Gotcha! Well, that test is over, I'm afraid :). I know we do have > methods for sort of forcing a session into a test population (for browsing > purposes) but I'm not sure how I feel about the idea of making that > available for _non_testing purposes. It kind of defeats the point of an A/B > test if the population is self-selected and features people aware of the > context of the test. > > On 26 January 2016 at 12:34, Luigi Assom &lt;itsawesome.yes(a)gmail.com&gt; > wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> @ Oliver, >> about A/B test I refer to the email of 13 Jan 2016 >> by Deborah Tankersley >> [discovery] New A/B testing on Wikipedia Portal page >> however, yes I would like tobe included in A/B tests in general, not >> a particular one. >> I m mostrly interested in full text search, knowledge discovery and >> discovery of topics' context. >> >> @Luca Nemo >> >> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Query#Generators >> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Search >> >> Not much clear to me yet, sorry. >> >> I will rephrase my question: >> I would like to do a full-text search (FTS) query, have the pageids >> and decorators. >> >> I also would like to have results hit (I see them in API:Search, >> list=search); I would like to access the page_Ids of articles (see them in >> generators). >> >> I would like to understand if the backend between two is different, >> since I've read list=search use an ElasticSearch instance, and it seems to >> me it is faster and better FTS (not tried extensively, through). >> Also, list=search offers a snippet and may be less expensive for wiki >> server instead of quering an exerpt - is it the case? >> >> I pass: >> params = {'action':'query', 'generator':'search', 'gsrnamespace' : 0, >> 'gsrsearch' : keywords, 'gsrlimit' : 20 , 'prop' : 'pageimages|extracts', >> 'pilimit' : 'max', 'exintro' : '', 'explaintext' : '', 'exsentences' : 3, >> 'exlimit' : 'max', 'redirects' : '' } >> >> would like to do the same with list=search. >> >> Could you please show an example of FTS with list=search ? >> >> Not clear to me how coudl I pass a list to a generator, if it is the >> case. >> >> Thank you. >> >> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Oliver Keyes &lt;okeyes(a)wikimedia.org&gt; >> wrote: >> >>> Which A/B test are you referring to? We have tried quite a few :). Or >>> do you just generally want to be included in the A/B tests? >>> >>> On 26 January 2016 at 03:44, Luigi Assom &lt;itsawesome.yes(a)gmail.com&gt; >>> wrote: >>> > Hello, >>> > >>> > I have few question for discovery portal and API: >>> > >>> > - possible to be included in the 0.05% who tried the A/B test? >>> > >>> > - do you have or plan to have a feature for discovery *between* >>> topics? E.g. >>> > suggestions connecting two topics. >>> > I ve been working on this. >>> > >>> > - Which is the difference in API:Search between: >>> > list=search and generator=search ? >>> > The first seems to be faster to me. >>> > >>> > - I need to fetch the pageIDs of the results, and have them already >>> > redirected and decorated with images and snipped/excerpt. >>> > >>> > With generator=search I could do it, I can't with list=search >>> > Could you help in grasping query parameters? >>> > >>> > #generator=search >>> > params = {'action':'query', 'generator':'search', 'gsrnamespace' : >>> 0, >>> > 'gsrsearch' : keywords, 'gsrlimit' : 20 , 'prop' : >>> 'pageimages|extracts', >>> > 'pilimit' : 'max', 'exintro' : '', 'explaintext' : '', >>> 'exsentences' : 3, >>> > 'exlimit' : 'max', 'redirects' : '' } >>> > >>> > #list=search >>> > params = {'action':'query', 'list':'search', 'srsearch' : keywords, >>> > 'srlimit' : 20 , 'srprop' : 'size', 'indexpageids' : 1 } ?? >>> > >>> > I m trying with sand box with no success, only search results are >>> hit, no >>> > matter of >>> > >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ApiSandbox#action=query&list=sear… >>> > >>> > >>> > - I also found 0&formatversion=2' is another param used in >>> search=list >>> > Has it a special meaning? >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > discovery mailing list >>> > discovery(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/discovery >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Oliver Keyes >>> Count Logula >>> Wikimedia Foundation >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> discovery mailing list >>> discovery(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/discovery >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> discovery mailing list >> discovery(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/discovery >> >> > > > -- > Oliver Keyes > Count Logula > Wikimedia Foundation > > _______________________________________________ > discovery mailing list > discovery(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/discovery > > _______________________________________________ discovery mailing list discovery(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/discovery