On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Jon Robson <jrobson(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: If examples like http://nv.wikipedia.org/ and the various home pages of wikis are any evidence, I'd say you're not alone there. -- Steven Walling https://wikimediafoundation.org/

On 15 July 2013 15:40, bawolff <bawolff+wn(a)gmail.com> wrote: ​That was explicitly mentioned as a goal when the UsabilityInitiative was kicked off, but the opportunity got lost along the way when Vector was added to the tarball as the default skin. However, I agree with Daniel that there are ethical issues about keeping back the improvements made just for look-and-feel differential - possibly this could be done with a different default colour scheme? J. -- James D. Forrester Product Manager, VisualEditor Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. jforrester(a)wikimedia.org | @jdforrester

I actually thing nv.wikipedia.org is a bad example.... I actually think all the Wikipedia's should have consistency. Clicking on a language link in Wikipedia to the Navajo language gives the impression you've left and gone to an external site. When I say projects should have their own skins I mean projects excluding languages: e.g. mediawiki, meta wiki, wikipedia, wikibooks, wiktionary, wikivoyage etc etc It does however point to a need for being able to customise tweaks out of the box. In Tumblr you can do things like change the font colour, heading colours etc. If we were to move to something like SASS or LESS compiled CSS ResourceLoader support it would be trivial to generate new themes with different colour schemes... which would be super cool. Common.css is not the place for these sorts of changes - it just leads to css cascade abuse. On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Steven Walling <swalling(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

On 07/16/2013 08:20 PM, Jon Robson wrote: I know SASS and LESS are cool, but we don't need them for that. It's quite possible to dynamically generate simple CSS for things like heading colors. There's already some dynamic CSS for other purposes in core (e.g. underline preferences, link colors). An extension could do this too. Wiki administrators are still going to want this ultimate flexibility, but that doesn't mean it needs to be the only option. Matt Flaschen