I would love this as an opportunity to start scaling up the mobile
design towards desktop. Getting vector to adopt our patterns would be
a step in the right direction.

Were in a head on collision between the two of them and as Terry
mentioned to me yesterday. We need to start talking about it.

--tomasz
--tomasz

On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Munaf Assaf <massaf@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> I'm glad we're finally talking about this. My only concern with removing the
> sidebar in Vector is that it would make the content occupy 100% of the
> screen, further reducing readability and making layouts more difficult.
>
> I think that, in order to have a Wikipedia without a sidebar, two things
> need to happen:
>
> We enclose content in a limited area (e.g. 960px)
> We have a grid.
>
> But, I'm glad we're talking about it :-)
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Steven Walling <swalling@wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Pau Giner <pginer@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> During the designs for the Translate extension, we thought on making the
>>> left toolbar disappear in some circumstances. Translators are very focused
>>> on the content and the links provided by the left side toolbar are rarely
>>> needed while translating.
>>>
>>> The idea is to hide the toolbar initially to reduce the amount of chrome
>>> and provide a cue so that users interested in it can bring it back. I
>>> created an interactive prototype to illustrate the idea.
>>>
>>> The design has been made under the following constraints:
>>>
>>> Avoid automatic moving parts. Other alternatives involving the toolbar to
>>> hide/show being triggered by scrolling were considered but the resulting
>>> change in the layout can be disorienting for the user.
>>> Keep the affordance for going back to the homepage. Users can be in a
>>> dead-end if they don't identify the top-left icon of the curent wiki to go
>>> back home.
>>> Minimal impact to the current layout. Major changes to the current skin
>>> were out of the scope of the curent project.
>>>
>>> I wanted to share this since other tools/extensions may have faced a
>>> similar need before.
>>> Feel free to provide any feedback, alternative solutions or info on
>>> potential problems.
>>>
>>> Pau
>>
>>
>> This would also be a very useful thing for our work on an onboarding
>> process.
>>
>> When trying the prototype, it took me a couple tries to figure out that
>> the wrench icon was where the sidebar hide/unhide action was. I first tried
>> just clicking the site logo, and dragging Vector from left to right to
>> unhide. Something with a more menu-like icon (reuse the MobileFrontEnd
>> hamburger?) and a simple dragging left and right might be interesting to
>> explore. If not dragging, a smoother drawer-like action would be desirable.
>>
>> Thanks very much for this proposal Pau. I think we could perhaps go even
>> further and consider what a "full screen" menu-less Vector might be like.
>> I'm thinking the use case is not just systems like translations or Page
>> Curation, but also a distraction-free editing mode.
>>
>> --
>> Steven Walling
>> https://wikimediafoundation.org/
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