The screenreader case seems like even more reason to have it be a image/button with descriptive alt text rather than relying on what a particular piece of screen reader software said an extended character should represent, since we're using it for something different.



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On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 5:38 AM, Matthew Flaschen <mflaschen@wikimedia.org> wrote:
On 11/13/2013 11:37 AM, Steven Walling wrote:


On Wednesday, November 13, 2013, Brion Vibber wrote:

    I would strongly consider totally redoing how references are
    displayed to use a popup light box with citation cut n paste tools.

    No caret or arrow needed for return in this situation... :)

    -- brion

Yeah having to scroll up and down the page at all is bad.

For reference here ;) I think enwiki has solved this problem partially
with Yair Rand's Reference Tooltips.
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reference_Tooltips
<http://m.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reference_Tooltips>

Popups also has this.  I like the idea of putting something like this in the Cite extension (where the referencing functionality lives), either immediately or as a Beta feature.

However, it's critical that we don't make accessibility worse.  Some screen readers support JavaScript and CSS, but not all, and we need to make sure everyone can still read our references.

As Nick said, testing with the print stylesheets is also important.

Matt Flaschen


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