I'll  say the same thing i said in the bug:

"I don't want to be dismissive but we have so many more important conversations
to be having and issues to be resolving than this. If there was some outpouring
of user complaints and issues over this (like there was over the use of a
heart) i'd be more inclined to focus more effort on it, but that simply hasn't
happened."
As far as the use of a smiley face for both user and thank, Ryan, I can see your point that it *could possibly* be confusing, but as much as I was a bit reticent about it originally I prefer the smile to an anonymous person shaped blob that you see on 90% of sites.



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On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Trevor Parscal <tparscal@wikimedia.org> wrote:
I've re-opened the "thanks icon is creepy" bug.

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51927

I think it's a serious problem.


On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Jared Zimmerman <jared.zimmerman@wikimedia.org> wrote:
I want May to weigh in on this, but she's having some issues joining the list, will be resolved soon.



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On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Quiddity <pandiculation@gmail.com> wrote:
On 13-10-22 11:53 AM, Jon Robson wrote:
I think this is known and intentional (as thanks relates to users). I
personally feel the icons are sufficiently different although maybe
both having a smile is the cause of conflict. Designers what is your
opinion?

The square frowny face is the opposite of thank no? That is the
impression the UI gives to me.


At first glance, I thought the frowny face was a glitched image. After a few seconds, I realized it's a (slightly ambiguous) flag.

Possibly removing the face-elements would help?

Is "flagging a problem" a fairly universally used symbolism nowadays?
Youtube uses a flag icon, with a mouseover text of "Report". I think the wavyness of their flag symbol is a bit more instantly-intuitive.


On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Jon Robson <jrobson@wikimedia.org> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Ryan Kaldari <rkaldari@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Recently on mobile we switched our iconography used to represent a user from
being a simplified head and shoulders to being a square smiley face.
Unfortunately, the square smiley face is already being used to represent the
thank action (via the Thanks extension). You can see an example of these two
UI elements being used on the same page in this design mock-up for the
mobile media viewer:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Media-viewer-tools-mobile-design-pau.png

As you can see, it's a bit confusing having 2 square smiley faces in the
same interface representing separate things (not to mention the square
frowny face for the flag action).

I would suggest that we change one or the other. Since the thank iconography
has already been through much debate and revision (originally being a red
heart, then a green heart, then a smiley face), I would favor changing the
user iconography back to a head and shoulders. Thoughts?

Ryan Kaldari

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