(Re: <http://unicorn.wmflabs.org/navmod/>)
Jared Zimmerman wrote:
MZMcBride wrote:
the section highlighting is neat, but may have
difficulty integrating
with VisualEditor
Doubt it will be difficult since it has nothing to do with VE (its
before VE is invoked) but VE section editing is in the works so we're
aligned on that.
Hi.
I've tsked Erik for this previously, but please don't talk to me like I'm
other people. :-) (A Sorkinism, to be sure.)
You're not seeing the whole board. When I say that VisualEditor needs
consideration, I do so with significant experience in the Wikimedia world.
When designing for Wikimedia, we're fairly confident that the future will
move toward VisualEditor. How our users dive into editing is incredibly
important and fundamental. James F. and others shared thoughts about the
future of section-editing at <https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/48429>,
including musings about whether it should continue to exist.
We should be thinking at a much higher level about how we want people to
be able to dive into editing. Double-clicking? A single edit button? A
magical cursor? Blue flashing section-edit buttons?
There are real challenges to implementing this particular mock. The most
obvious is probably: how will we reconcile the current [edit | edit
source] world?
The second is how the behavior can be predictable. Consider:
---
= Page title =
Intro text here. [edit]
== Header == [edit]
Text here.
=== Subheader === [edit]
Text here.
== Header ==
Text here. [edit]
---
When does a section-edit link mean editing only that section and when does
it mean editing everything below that section up until the next section of
the same level? This is a bit of a tricky concept to understand, but if
you examine the semantics of our markup with how section-editing currently
behaves and exists, you can see the possible discrepancy in behavior. Part
of the reason we don't have an edit link for the top section in MediaWiki
core relates to this problem.
moving the
section links back over is probably more "cognitive load"
than users are willing to deal with
I don't know what this means, do you mean the edit links on the right vs
to the right of the section headers? I do think having them in a fixed
location is a good idea but right aligned vs left will be something to
test and get feedback on
It used to be something like:
Header [edit]
Now it's:
Header [edit]
Perhaps one day it'll be a pencil icon instead of "[edit]". But each
change adds some cognitive load for current users to adjust their
behavior. We need to be mindful of this and try to ensure some level of
stability in the design.
MZMcBride