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: @JaredZimmermanOn Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 1:39 AM, Mathieu Stumpf <psychoslave@culture-libre.org> wrote:
Thank for your clarifying answer.
To my mind, simple icons are fine, and I agree with all your arguments. I came with nuvola only because this was an existing (sleeping) project, whom icons are already widely used in Wikimedia projects. Having an homogeneous icon set covering all subjects which may need one in Wikimedia projects is already a daunting task. So going with basic pictograms, like [1], seems a good idea to me. Moreover, once you have a good "black and white" form, it's easy to add colors, shadow, blurs, and glossy/shiny aspect to it. One may even come with a script to automate the process. Maybe not easily with a 100% out of the box satisfying result on all output, but it could clearly be a path to speed up the process.
Still I'm pretty sure I've seen a "creating a public domain icon set for wikimedia" project previously this year, I fail to retrieve the references. I can create a new project on meta/commons, but if there is already one this would be wasting time and energy. Does anyone know of such an existing project?
[1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Public_information_symbols
Le 2013-06-07 03:48, Jared Zimmerman a écrit :
JARED ZIMMERMAN \ Director of User Experience \ WikimediaMathieu,
to second what Pau said I think that while we appreciate the effort
here, multi-colored icons that are not necessarily from vector (vs
raster) based sources really increases the overhead to maintain the
visual system.
Single color icons that are resolution independent that we can scale,
modify, and display easily on desktop and mobile are much more
useful.
Depending on design direction, single color "metaphor" icons and
easily change with the look of the site over time, and don't
necessarily have a strong look & feel of their own, this gives the
foundation and designer that help us out more leeway to explore
different design options.
We also would love to see greater consistency, if you look at the
icon guidelines for Windows, OS X, Android, or iOS you will see
cohesive systems for color, perspective, shape, as well as suggestions
on how to deal with certain metaphors and concepts. Because many of
the assets will be created by the community having guidelines like
this is very helpful, and i'd love for my team to eventually create
these. The icons you've shown as part of Nuvola are very creative and
represent a pretty high barrier to entry for someone with basic image
editing skills. If like Pau suggests we utilize the simple flat or
subtly volumetric style found on the Noun Project the barrier to entry
feel much lower to new users wanting to contribute.
Not to say that creating simplicity is simple, but I think it is a
good place to start.
Thanks again for your contributions, check out the Noun Project and
let us know your thoughts
Jared
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M : +1 415 609 4043 | : @JaredZimmerman [4]> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Project_Nuvola_2.0% [1]Le jeudi 30 mai 2013 à 15:29 +0200, Pau Giner a écrit :
The Noun project has icons for very diverse topics, so it may be> helpful in general. Their science and math category does seem not to
> cover the specific concepts you mention, but some of the available
> ones may be useful as inspiration.
>
>
> Pau
Oh, sorry, I just realized that indeed someone answered, and in fact I
even added the link in the external link section of the project. :P
Now, the project list many "review needed", but don't document the
review process, do you have any idea/suggestion?
>
>
> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Mathieu Stumpf
> <psychoslave@culture-libre.org> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Seeking for icons to reprent things like "axioms", "theorems"
> and so on for the french wikiversity, I found the "Project
> Nuvola 2.0+"[1], despite it seems that there's currently not
> much activity on it, I began to put new proposals on the page.
> I think I red some messages on this list about this topic. Is
> there some active projects I should look at?
>
> By the way, if you have ideas to illustrate the following
> concepts, let me know:
> Axiom
> Corollary
> Definition
> Example
> Lemma
> Principle
> Proof
> Property
> Suggestion
> Theorem
>
> You may look at [2] to see my current proposals for some of
> them.
>
> [1]
> 2B
> [2] https://fr.wikiversity.org/wiki/Modèle:Emphase [2]> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/design [3]https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/design [3]
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